FSX Haters thread

[RitterKreuz]

In an attempt to understand what the biggest complaints are about FSX i would like for the biggest "Haters" of FSX to post their complaints here.

I dont see what the fuss is all about, but perhaps this thread will help me understand what the biggest complaints about FSX are.

Please try to keep on topic, dont attack others, be polite and respectful

plain and simple just tell us what you dont like about FSX


if you dont have a complaint there is no need to even post a reply  :D

thanks all!!

[ashaman]

I remember that days that from FS2002 we all went to FS9.

Those were the days of the WTF. Even more than today, actually.

A lot of people sang about the "great graphics of FS9" comparing it to the "poor graphics of FS2002". I'm still laughing my behind off, even after those years.

I did not even bother to point out to those poor delusional (or next to blind) beings at the time that the differences between the two simulators were mostly under the hood (weather, mostly). That the graphics' differences were little to nil.

I must admit that, coming from FS98 (and having decided that FS2000 was an abort better forgot, a failed attempt at better) to FS2002, I thought that FS9 would be a... pause of refection, shall we say, in wait for something better. To a something comparable to the very same jump made before.

I can't but byte my knuckles bloody at my naivety.

But after all, what was I expecting for M$? What could I ever expect from someones who have a simulator in their hands, and yet treat it like a mere game.

The so waited for FS10 revealed itself to be in the end... the graphical upgrade that should have been given with FS9 to make it a complete upgrade from FS2002.

How many really have wised up to the fact that we're running one complete release behind, I cannot but wonder.

Oh, yes, M$ threw there the fact that now the earth is spherical... almost an afterthought, to make somewhat happy the few less inclined to make themselves blind by new sleeker graphics.

Whoopeee... the earth is now spherical for M$ too. Hell, they wised up to this even after the Roman Church. That's something else altogether.

What? The 99.999 barrier is not there? So what? It's not like you can even think to build a plane using that new feature. After all, the planes' dynamics are still the very same of FS95, meaning you can go up there only slewing, and so much fun that is. A useless feature is no feature at all in my book.

Too little meat, too many feathers, at least for this old wolf.

As I see it, and if you read what I wrote above you can very well surmise for yourself, what is now FSX should have been published three years back as FS2004, for it to have been a real new version. If you discount the spherical earth, FSX is nothing but a graphical upgrade of FS9.

In the end? I'm treating FSX like FS2000 (read above).

I'd wish to hope FS11 will be something really worthy, but I seem to have misplaced my hope. Should any of you find it, could you send it to me? Thank you.

[RitterKreuz]

reply Noted: i personally purchased FSX for the missions, the weather improvements, and the far greater multiplayer options, not the minor graphics enhancements  i can see how one would view FSX as an FS9 upgrade.

on my machine i can really see the difference in the terrain and autogen, the fact that gliders are now actually useful in the game because of thermal modeling and tow planes, I also think that FS9 catered to the seasoned audience of the MSFS series... while FSX seems to be aiming at gaining new players who have not played FS before?

i also rather like the light blooms, and reflective when wet runways and ramps but i think they should have been implemented long ago though.

the use of 3-d virtual cockpits is very nice too, much more realistic than the 2-d arcade like panes and the clumsy 3-d panels in FS9 because in FSX it seems to interface much better with trackIR than it did in FS9.

You make some interesting points though. Its nice to see another persons opinion of the simulator.

i have to admit though, i remember the days of FS2 and the eventual move to FS98 and how awesome it was to see that transition over the years... for one i consider myself very fortunate to have access to such sims as FS9 and FSX... i personally think that every person who plays anything after FS98 should be forced to play FS2 for a month hahaha  ;D JK

[GunnerMan]

Ashaman go take a gander at the growing fsx addon community you will see that the engine is capable of a LOT more now than FS9 ever was. New flight dynamics and weather are added too. I know this is a "haters" thread so it's not my place but look at the FS community and the game community because we all hate it being called a game but thats really what it is is a game. It is not certified as a true training aid and Microsoft knows this. Microsoft does not care about the FEW people that care more about how real it is as to how good it looks. Take a look at the gamer community they want graphics and graphics and more graphics so what did MS do? They gave us graphics, more than we can handle actually  ;D There is a lot more work that goes into these "pitty" changes than you think. Look at the Payware companies they charge more than the game in some cases for an improved PIECE of the game. Microsoft makes more money on Xbox than they do MSFS so they have a budget and the MSFS design team must be smaller. If they could make MSFS with all of the changes people want in one release I am sure they would, it just is not economicaly feasable.

[Brett_Henderson]

It's tough to have an honest, accurate opinion about FSX, because none of us have enough computer to let it stretch its legs..

What I dislike most about FSX, is more a dislike for my hardware (performance issues).  I also miss having lotsa traffic at airports and I miss some of the incredibly detailed planes I amassed in FS9 ..

Basically; what I dislike about FSX, is the same thing I disliked about FS9.. It will be a year or more before the hardware needed to push it to it's limits is reasonably priced.

Oh.. also..  I really hate that, even on my limited hardware, FSX is so much more a dynamic sim experience, that I cant enjoy FS9 while waiting for FSX hardware...  it's flat and stale

[DizZa]

LMFAO!

[ashaman]

Microsoft does not care about the FEW people that care more about how real it is as to how good it looks. Take a look at the gamer community they want graphics and graphics and more graphics

But after all, what was I expecting for M$? What could I ever expect from someones who have a simulator in their hands, and yet treat it like a mere game.

I've already answered.

If there's not the will to understand that a simulator is not a mere game, then the people in M$ are not at all that sharp, M$ policy is not for me, and quite surely I'll go searching for another solution quite soon. A point of equilibrium has to be found to make both kind of users happy. Today there's not equilibrium.

PS
I couldn't care less about the need of people (M$) whom feel they couldn't care less about my needs.

[john_uk]

LMFAO!

+1

[ATI_7500]

I hate FSX's whack and unconfigurable graphics engine which looks good, but is technically hopelessly outdated.

The rest is awesome 'though.



My FS9 is dusting away in peace.

[Fozzer]

I just wander in here by mistake sometimes... ...!

Paul.... 8-)....not sayin' nuffin'.... ...!

[alrot]

IF they would wait a little longer and Check this software closer, they realease the software too early ,they release a a software with huge problems without taking care of the customers, Thanks God they release SP1 .

there were a lot of fustrations , fights and Ban in this place, as I never seen In my history in SimV,
.

Those problems are gone Due to SP1 , But next time I'll wait because I saw that MS's software are not so trustfull..

[Brett_Henderson]

I couldn't care less about the need of people (M$) whom feel they couldn't care less about my needs.

What gets lost in this dicussion, is what we get for the $70 we part with every 2-3 years. I'm no fan of Microsoft's business practices and I'm quite sure they don't dedicate the same resources toward customer wants and needs, as they would to something like Word/Excell/Powerpoint. If they did; FSX would likely be a $270 product and there's no way they'd realease it a form that could be customized.. AND more importantly, allow the freeware community not only access, but SUPPORT in there efforts.

There are many thing I'd like changed or added to the sim... and even though I'd gladly pay $1,000 (or more) for an FSXI that adressed all my wants... A thousand dollar sim wouldn't have never developed the following and community that we enjoy.

Yes.. if you focus on what is still "ungood" about the sim, it's easy to say Microsoft is ignoring some of our important concerns. BUT, if you sit back and look at what the sim has become over the years, and what the sim community (like this site) has become.. it's pretty short-sighted and selfish to sit back and condem Microsoft. All-in-all, they've given us an incredible value. MSFS is a wonderful, desktop flight simulator. It's realistic enough to be a valuable training tool (much better than FAA approved software for actual, logged instrument time). It's realistic and accurate enough to keep a real pilot entertained and sharp (re: navigation and instrument procedures). If you're motivated, it allows you to design your own aircraft and scenery. The positive and good in MSFS far outweighs its shortcomings.... especially considering that it's a $70, desktop "game".

There's nothing wrong with expressing what we'd want; fixed, added to or changed about MSFS... I have my gripes too.. But sweeping condemnations ?  Nah.. I don't see it. All said and done, Microsoft has done very well by us.

[Mobius]

I don't like that the OBS doesn't tell my what it's set at.  That's all.  Have a nice day.



I won't argue....I won't argue......I won't argue........I won't argue.........I won't argue.....


Nothing is perfect, but FSX is very good, and the best we have, so why not enjoy it?!

[ATI_7500]

Nothing is perfect, but FSX is very good, and the best we have, so why not enjoy it?!

Why do people still use 2D panels?


Unsolvable mysteries...

[ashaman]

Nothing is perfect, but FSX is very good, and the best we have, so why not enjoy it?!

Why do people still use 2D panels?

To say that FSX is very good is to say that berlusconi is a honest man. FSX may have something good to give, but whatever it may give is WAY less that what it FSX MIGHT have given if someone had made it less a game and more a simulator.

As for the 2d panels... well, maybe people wish to read the instruments without having to lose their eyesight, perhaps? Personally I don't give a flying f... k about passing fashions and very much prefer a good 2d panel to a half-assed VC.