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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby Nick N » Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:06 pm

As a follow up to the memory speed issue, I just spoke to a friend at Corsair who tells me the Asus P5NSLI suffers from a problem which does not allow it to read the memory SPD correctly and it must be set up manually on that motherboard or it will never run right. That falls in line with what I see in CPUz.

Also, the 601 BIOS is known for memory instability. It was the the initial BIOS release for the motherboard. the current BIOS is 1001 but #903 may also be used as it was the latest that had a major update to it.

I was also informed the motherboard has issues on the northbridge that a BIOS update may correct.

The next question I would have, is, have you any expereince in BIOS updating and if so, do you feel comfortable about a BIOS upgrade?

If not, we will work with what you have however there may be limits to how far we can go. Anything will be better than leaving the settings as they are now.
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby Nick N » Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:11 pm

THIS MESSAGE IS FOR ANYONE WHO READS THIS THREAD FROM THIS POINT ON.

DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES ATTEMPT WHAT IS POSTED ABOUT BIOS UPGRADES, BIOS SETTINGS OR MEMORY TIMING UNLESS YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE DOING

WHAT I WILL BE POSTING HERE WILL BE SPECIFIC TO Black ZR-1 MOTHERBOARD AND SYSTEM


ANYONE WHO READS THIS INFORMATION AND MAKES CHANGES TO THEIR SYSTEM ACCORDING IS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OUTCOME.

NO ONE HERE OR THIS WEB SITE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DAMAGE
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby Black ZR-1 » Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:16 pm

As a follow up to the memory speed issue, I just spoke to a friend at Corsair who tells me the Asus P5NSLI suffers from a problem which does not allow it to read the memory SPD correctly and it must be set up manually on that motherboard or it will never run right. That falls in line with what I see in CPUz.

Also, the 601 BIOS is known for memory instability. It was the the initial BIOS release for the motherboard. the current BIOS is 1001 but #903 may also be used as it was the latest that had a major update to it.

I was also informed the motherboard has issues on the northbridge that a BIOS update may correct.

The next question I would have, is, have you any expereince in BIOS updating and if so, do you feel comfortable about a BIOS upgrade?

If not, we will work with what you have however there may be limits to how far we can go. Anything will be better than leaving the settings as they are now.


God I love Asus.

Just flashed it to 1001

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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby Nick N » Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:21 pm

As a follow up to the memory speed issue, I just spoke to a friend at Corsair who tells me the Asus P5NSLI suffers from a problem which does not allow it to read the memory SPD correctly and it must be set up manually on that motherboard or it will never run right. That falls in line with what I see in CPUz.

Also, the 601 BIOS is known for memory instability. It was the the initial BIOS release for the motherboard. the current BIOS is 1001 but #903 may also be used as it was the latest that had a major update to it.

I was also informed the motherboard has issues on the northbridge that a BIOS update may correct.

The next question I would have, is, have you any expereince in BIOS updating and if so, do you feel comfortable about a BIOS upgrade?

If not, we will work with what you have however there may be limits to how far we can go. Anything will be better than leaving the settings as they are now.







I want to follow up on the above. The motherboard is currently using BIOS 106. This was the initial release BIOS for the board. It was designed BEFORE the 8800 cards were on the market. I have no idea if one of the BIOS upgrades addresses Northbridge and PCIe issues however if it does, upgading the BIOS may very well improve the situation.

I also have to warn that it may not change anything and there is always the possibility things may be worse. If that is found, downgrading back to another or the original BIOS may be required.


As I said, we can work with what you have a see how it fairs and then upgrade if it is thought it may help, or, you can opt to upgrade the BIOS first. I will leave that decision up to you.


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If you do upgrade the BIOS, you MUST shut down the computer, unplug it from the wall, discharge the PSU (hit the tower button several times) and then clear the CMOS by moving the the jumper to clear and back to RUN. Then boot the computer, enter the BIOS, go to the EXIT screen and select LOAD SETUP DEFAULTS, F-10 save and exit....
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby justpassingthrough » Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:29 pm

CRUNCH CRUNCH CRUNCH

Popcorn?  [smiley=beer.gif]


I love to watch a good movie  [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby Nick N » Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:47 pm

I have a concern about the Ntune software. I see it was not reporting the temps on the screenshots you posted. I like the idea you have temp monitor software for checking the CPU and other areas while we work this out however I do not know if NTune is going to be an issue with manual BIOS settings. I am assuming once I switch you off the AI Overclock and Auto pilot settings in the BIOS, Ntune will no longer be able to change settings as it boots with Windows.

I do want to know if that software is reading the temps. Please check that for me.


EDIT: I have one other question to. I do not see it in the startup list but I want to make sure you are not booting a program called Asus AiBoost. The software is buggy and if it runs, is known for crashing a system if you attempt to set a BIOS up RIGHT. Just let me know if this software is not being booted or run.
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby Black ZR-1 » Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:20 pm

The only temp monitor I found on Ntune was this:

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I do not see Asus AiBoost program running either.
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby Nick N » Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:25 pm

The only temp monitor I found on Ntune was this:

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I do not see Asus AiBoost program running either.



Its not reporting the temps... it says NOT REPORTED

Are their any options in the Ntune software that turn on temp monitoring?

Unfortunately I do not know that software so i will need to rely on you to check around for preferences
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby Black ZR-1 » Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:26 pm

What about this? It came with my motherboard CD

PC Probe 2

It monitors temps and voltage. Just installed it:

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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby Nick N » Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:32 pm

The only temp monitor I found on Ntune was this:

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I do not see Asus AiBoost program running either.



I grabed the manual...


http://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/n ... _guide.pdf

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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby Nick N » Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:35 pm

What about this? It came with my motherboard CD

PC Probe 2

It monitors temps and voltage. Just installed it:

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PC Probe may cause stutters in MSFS if it is running while FSX is in play.. BUT We can use it for our work here for now
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby Nick N » Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:37 pm

Stand by I am still typing up settings
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby Nick N » Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:01 pm

The following assumes you have set up the typical devices in the BIOS such as boot order, network devices, etc. All I will be dealing with are the performance settings.

Another thing you must understand is that the motherboard manual may have settings listed differently, especially if a BIOS upgrade has occurred. If there is something in this list that does not appear correct, different or you are not sure, write down the setting, post back and I will elaborate.

Also, there may be changes that I have to work through here so be patient with this process. I know it may be getting late and we can stop and continue at a better time if you need to.

NOTE:
If the system will not boot or crashes booting into Windows with the settings I post below, use the BIOS recover features of the keyboard to boot safe settings, go back in the BIOS and set it back up the way you had it and post what happened. It is possible the settings I will give you may not work the first time around and I need to know that before we go further.

First, enter the BIOS and go to the ADVANCED screen

JUMPER FREE CONFIGURATION:

Set AI Overclocking to MANUAL

Overclocking options DISABLED

Under FREQUENCY CONTROL:

PCIE FREQ to 100

SYSTEM CLOCK MODE: CPU/MEM MANUAL

NEW FSB: 1333
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby Nick N » Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:12 pm

I have it on good word the voltage regulator on that board may not set the Vcore correctly unless it is set high in the BIOS. I want to see a Vcore of 1.35 for now. If the system does not boot the first time, try raising the manual Vcore to 1.4v

Do not exceed 1.4v without discussing it with me first.

The first time it reboots after the settings are changed in the BIOS (if it does) go back into the BIOS and check the HARDWARE and VOLTAGE monitor, verify the CPU is at 1.35v and the temps look good
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby Black ZR-1 » Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:15 pm

It's only 8 PM here so I'm still good.

Changing settings now.
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