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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby Black ZR-1 » Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:55 am

I reduced the autogen to dense.

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I've also noticed occasional hicups while in Spot view.

I will continue with the Maul sessions tomorrow.

Thanks for your help, mil. (/enter thumbs up icon here)
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby Black ZR-1 » Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:59 am

Zoom 1.0 on both screenshots. I noticed about the wing-tips too.

So far so good. I have 2 options: I either fly with wideview off or on. Still debating.



deleteing the fsx.cfg and changing the driver settings is more than likely what fixed the wide screen aspect ratio. It is good to see that is now displaying as it should.


I dont want to butt in, but there is a setting I would like you to change in the drivers.

Threaded Optimization: OFF

When you make that change, repeat a flight that you already did and see if there is a positive, negative or no affect on the flight

If you are not sure with the first flight, you may need to repeat it a few times with it on and off. We are looking for a very positive or negative change. If you see no difference, set it back to ON


Would you please post a link to the manual for your motherboard or point me to the right document? I would like to take a look at it and may ask a few questions.





http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=3 ... odelmenu=1

I will make those changes tomorrow, Nick. I'm pretty beat with all this testing. It's 1 AM here. See you guys tomorrow and thank you very much for your help. You didn't have to do all this.
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby justpassingthrough » Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:02 am

I reduced the autogen to dense.

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I've also noticed occasional hicups while in Spot view.

I will continue with the Maul sessions tomorrow.

Thanks for your help, mil. (/enter thumbs up icon here)



Man those are some NICE screens.. it looks very REAL

I like the fact that we got you up in the mid teens now.


Goodnight! we will continue again when ever you are ready
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby Nick N » Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:12 am

Zoom 1.0 on both screenshots. I noticed about the wing-tips too.

So far so good. I have 2 options: I either fly with wideview off or on. Still debating.



deleteing the fsx.cfg and changing the driver settings is more than likely what fixed the wide screen aspect ratio. It is good to see that is now displaying as it should.


I dont want to butt in, but there is a setting I would like you to change in the drivers.

Threaded Optimization: OFF

When you make that change, repeat a flight that you already did and see if there is a positive, negative or no affect on the flight

If you are not sure with the first flight, you may need to repeat it a few times with it on and off. We are looking for a very positive or negative change. If you see no difference, set it back to ON


Would you please post a link to the manual for your motherboard or point me to the right document? I would like to take a look at it and may ask a few questions.





http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=3 ... odelmenu=1

I will make those changes tomorrow, Nick. I'm pretty beat with all this testing. It's 1 AM here. See you guys tomorrow and thank you very much for your help. You didn't have to do all this.




I will look over the manual and see if I spot any issues we may want to check out.

When you get a chance if you could please post the BIOS version you are using and what motherboard and sound driver versions.

I agree with John. The screen shots are looking good. I assume the sim is looking good on you're end too.


Sorry about the late hour. Rest well.
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby ATI_7500 » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:57 am

The real x1900xtx will out perform a 8800GTS where it counts. the only thing a 8800GTS has over a x1900xtx is the fill spec of MT/s and the memory bus of 320bit. If the right manuafacture of xtx is purchased and paired with the right processor, it will overcome the 8800GTS. It also has a better visual quality. It does come with a heat price though.


Erm. All the benchmarks I've seen clearly speak in favor of the 8800GTS.

Okay, it's not always superior, but as soon as you kick in AA and AF, the 1950XTX doesn't stand a chance.


The E6600 is much better than a 6300 however because the 6600 is actually a glorified 6400, the E6700 will in fact never be touched by it.


Dang!

Being you do have the E6600 I would not go out and buy a E6700 at this point but would probably put the money into suppoting components such as PC8000+ memory and motherboard which supports the new quad architecture, the highest bus/memory speeds and available memory/CPU settings.


I got a P5WDH Deluxe - Quad Core ready and FSB1000 capable.

That way you are optimizing the next purchase of processor and putting the money where it will not be lost down the road.


I'm gonna go for a bit of overclocking first, then, if the prices are reasonable for a Core2Extreme or anything better paired with some DDR1000 Ram.


With a E6600, you will always be behind the 8-ball


Don't think so. I find the 8800GTS/E6600 combination quite nice actually. Makes for a good high-end PC.



Yes, I suggest using NvTray to set that to 0 over -6 if you are looking for performance although enabled it does sharpen things. A setting of +6 can also be run but it will degrade the image.


There really isn't any difference and if there actually was, it's only barely noticable.


Just an unoffending side question: Are you kind of an ATI junkie? ;)
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby Nick N » Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:58 pm

The real x1900xtx will out perform a 8800GTS where it counts. the only thing a 8800GTS has over a x1900xtx is the fill spec of MT/s and the memory bus of 320bit. If the right manuafacture of xtx is purchased and paired with the right processor, it will overcome the 8800GTS. It also has a better visual quality. It does come with a heat price though.


Erm. All the benchmarks I've seen clearly speak in favor of the 8800GTS.

Okay, it's not always superior, but as soon as you kick in AA and AF, the 1950XTX doesn't stand a chance.



Ok, If you say so.
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby Nick N » Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:09 pm

Nick, do you see FSX in the future supporting SLI? If so, would an 8800GTS SLI + an E6700 with 2+ gigs of ram be a good setup? Or just drop everything and start all over say by Summer's time.



I am saying what is available now to the public is not what you will want for a satisfying FSX experience as compare to FS9.


There is a shift taking place in motherboard and graphics design and anyone who purchases now is going to be left behind by the end of the year. How fast that technology gets out and is debugged is yet to be seen however it is my professional opinion that any purchase of hardware should wait until summer, possibly fall, in order to allow the industry to raise the bar and fix the duck-ups.


As it stands there is no certified DX10 hardware on the market. The 8800 was a DX10 pre-release and they had no way of testing that card in real world application, only in theoretical environments with test bed software. The R600 will be the first 'certified' card assuming it makes it to market prior to Nvidia's next offering. There has been a great deal of development change and approach in DX10 since last year and any card that was designed/released prior to that has unknown potential. ATi is being smart in holding back their product. They got burned when they released their first DX9 products prior to the official launch of DX9 and it took them almost a year to recover. I do not see them making the same mistake again. History tends to repeat itself and this time Nvidia jumped the gun but the difference is, they knew their product would not be put up against DX10 until later this year, so they suckered the public into paying top dollar for a card that may end up being a DX10 flop. By the time DX10 is truly launched and fully implemented, they will have a replacement upgrade on the market to soften the blow.

Nvidia was smart for playing the game the way they did. ATi had to deal with DX9 for real... Nivida is laughing all the way to the bank because they sold a DX10 card at top dollar and there are no DX10 applications to test it on.  ;D

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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby Black ZR-1 » Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:48 pm

Autogen is the only slider I've touched so far.

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It just doesn't feel right flying in false widevew any more...  :-?
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby justpassingthrough » Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:55 pm

[quote]Autogen is the only slider I've touched so far.

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It just doesn't feel right flying in false widevew any more...
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby Black ZR-1 » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:12 pm

[quote]I will look over the manual and see if I spot any issues we may want to check out.

When you get a chance if you could please post the BIOS version you are using and what motherboard and sound driver versions.

I agree with John. The screen shots are looking good. I assume the sim is looking good on you're end too.


Sorry about the late hour. Rest well.
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby Nick N » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:43 pm

[quote][quote]I will look over the manual and see if I spot any issues we may want to check out.

When you get a chance if you could please post the BIOS version you are using and what motherboard and sound driver versions.

I agree with John. The screen shots are looking good. I assume the sim is looking good on you're end too.


Sorry about the late hour. Rest well.
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby Black ZR-1 » Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:36 pm

[quote][quote][quote]I will look over the manual and see if I spot any issues we may want to check out.

When you get a chance if you could please post the BIOS version you are using and what motherboard and sound driver versions.

I agree with John. The screen shots are looking good. I assume the sim is looking good on you're end too.


Sorry about the late hour. Rest well.
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby justpassingthrough » Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:38 am

Ah yes, I should of mentioned that. From page 4 'til now, I have not been overclocked. What you've been seeing were default settings.

The reason why I wasn't overclocked was I wanted my FPS to be fair with the settings Miltest suggested using. I wanted to see what I was getting with raw cpu & gpu power.

I've taken some screenshots of overclocked & non-overclocked on both false and true wideview.

Keep in mind no sliders have been changed.

@ KSEA airport. Summer, day, fair weather.

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GPU overclocked only







I am glad you are not clocking the system while we work the rest of this out. Once we have the best we can get for visuals and smooth flight, then the clocking will start.

It looks like you are within 2 frames of true and false with widescreen so it would appear to me that it is functioning normally. I would leave on true if you like how that looks and lets work with that from this point on.

I know it is probably late there and if you want to wait till tomorrow that fine with me

Lets try the following:

FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.25
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby Nick N » Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:54 am

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I do not recall this being asked but I think it is important, did you optimize your Windows install by using the list from this thread? http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2 ... 53;start=0
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby Nick N » Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:00 am

[quote]Wooooo
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