Uninstalled FSX

[Brett_Henderson]

HERE we go again. Are you a politician by any chance? You take an argument and put it on its head to protect your point of view, you MUST enter politics.  

I don't see where anything was turned upside down. Nobody got run over. Noboby was shot. Nobody is at fault. Mobius was just pointing out the obvious. You can't get mad at Microsoft for making the next-gen sim something that requires next-gen hardware. If you're enough of a sim enthusiast to appreciate where it's been, where it is and where it's going.. it's pretty arrogant on your part to complain (and blame Microsoft) when your FS9 computer has trouble with FSX..

[Mobius]

Well, I'm back again.  Like Brett said so well in the other thread almost exactly the same as this one...

Better to release it early.. I think. It will help the debugging.. and in the mean time.. if you DO have the hardware to run it,  you can enjoy it now (I am).. Holding on to software until EVERYbody who wants it, can afford the hardware, makes no sense. And besides.. if that time ever came (it never will) newer, better hardware will be out and take the simming experience to ever higher levels..

...which is exactly correct.  

There are many people out there running FSX extrememly well, because they've realised it is a brand new, high-end video game, and as with any other brand-new, high-end video game, it has one or two bugs (other than the aforementioned Airbus bug), and requires huge amounts of computing power to run fast and smooth.  I have recently bought a few other brand new games (BF2142, Dark Messiah, GTR2) and they all run exactly the same as FSX does on my computer.  Are you saying Microsoft should have waited at least a year, probably more like two or three years to release FSX, because that is undoubtedly when mid-range computers (at that time) will be able to run FSX smoothly?  I, as well as most of the rest of the people here would be very upset with that, becuase I've been enjoying FSX ever since it came out.

If you want my tweaks, like I already said, move your sliders down (to the left), becuase if your getting low frame rates, it's becuase your computer can't handle FSX on ultra-high settings.  That is all I had to do to get FSX running at 60+ FPS.  

Hopefully I've made my point clear enough with four posts saying the same thing, as well as everyone else's, so I hope this is my last post in this thread, probably not though...

[Fr. Bill]

[quote]According to what I am reading here, it is ok for a company to rip you off because (1) they are successful, (2) that is just a sound businiss policy and (3) it is a free market. Ok, if you say so. Afterall, you are the master tweekers. As for me, I'll stick with software that I don't have to tweek.

[Rocket_Bird]

Some of this is already the obvious, however I think the only fault on microsoft's side of things is their minimum system requirements printed on the box, which is really misleading.  Which can disappoint their customers if they don't know a whole lot about gaming performance.  

The other is their activation policy.  I noticed that on places like ebay and amazon that there are used copies for sale.  If you are only supposed to activate twice, then how do you sell the game if your not happy with it?  Of course theres always going throug hthe hassles and stuff.  

Just my two cents...

[Joe_D]

I do belive we are all missing the point.

FPS is not even part of the issue as a faster computer can solve this issue.

ACES/MS took two steps back for every step forward and then say you can't run the program properly until some time in the future after some undisclosed patches, upgrades,etc are released.

There are just some things that VISTA and DX10 can not fix. Some serious upgrade/reworking of FSX is needed if it is to survive.

After the initial sales burst, I think sales will drop to the point that MS

[NicksFXHouse]

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Since Microsoft has generously offered a 45 day money back guarantee, how can you possibly feel "ripped off?"

Take advantage of their refund offer, spend the refund on a cup of Starbucks, and be satisfied...

[mtnbkr41]

I have two messages.

For the people who have problems with FSX. Video games advance with time and technology, so should you.

For the people who attack the complainers. SHUT UP! People have the same right as you do in these forums to express their experiences and shortcomings with FSX. You don't need to attack them. Try using a helpful and positive word in your posts.

I'm sick of reading about worthless crap. It's a waste of everybodies time and effort. This is a place where people come for help; not arguments.

I had a few problems with FSX and I got help from the helpful people in this forum. The program is a bit unstable and needs work. This is no secret. It will get better as more people and Microsoft figure out the bugs.

Nuff said!

[ashaman]

...You can't get mad at Microsoft for making the next-gen sim something that requires next-gen hardware...

Point the first, I've no reason yet to get mad. I did not buy it and have no intention of forking money for it. This doesn't mean I'm not going to point out its shortcomings. I wish it was worth of being bought, but as it is FSX is configuring itself to be FS2000 V2.

As the "next gen" crack... read Joe_D's post. Never read a cleverer post about the matter at hand ever since the "FSX disaster" has been making itself known to those who have eyes to see.

[Brett_Henderson]

I read , and re-read the post. It's cleverly worded but void of substance. Obviously not from a person who's familiar, intimately, with either FS9 or FSX.  There is so much that is new and better.. I'm still amazed every time I fly. It's not just some flashy stuff.. it's a whole new way of rendering models and textures.. and the models and textures are much improved too. Icing on the cake is the VASTLY improved multi-player. Planes don't lag and skip like before. AND  now you can share a cockpit too.. even hand over control of the plane.  A N D.. the tower function. You ought go run it from the tower mode.. It's like a game inside of a game..

It's all quite incredible and the best $70 you'll ever spend on software...

(sorry about the 3rd person referrence Joe)

[NicksFXHouse]

I did not buy it and have no intention of forking money for it. This doesn't mean I'm not going to point out its shortcomings.

I have to ask... if you have not bought it or you have not run it how can you comment on it at all and why would you comment on something you have no experience running? At that point your comments are not from an educated or experienced point of view and instead are generated out of some type of hearsay and/or a dislike for the company in general.

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[Joe_D]

My post was edited for spelling......I'm a bad typest.

Now.... you say FSX is" flawed and needs to be patched" so, where is the argument?

I hate to de redundant but, what gets patched will for most part be determind by customer feed back and yes, complaints!

To continue the car analogy...
Some are mainly concerned about the color and gas mileage.
Others are much more concerned about what's under the hood and handeling.
FSX does not meet expectations in either catagory
and has actually taken steps backwords in some aspects.

My messageg to ACES and MS is simple:
Fix the nuts and bolts before you work on the color.

Saying that I'm not being specific does not hold water. We all know about the flaws in FSX by now and anyone who doesn't is not really paying attention or is hiding their head in the sand.

[NicksFXHouse]

FSX does not meet expectations in either catagory
and has actually taken steps backwords in some aspects.

Only to those who expected the universe and instead got a solar system.

Flawed like any other newly released software.. it may need some TLC to get it up to speed what what it does not need is constant whining that says nothing and perpetuates gloom.

I can fly FSX on an x800xt AIW quite well. That's not because I have any special tweaks installed into FSX, its because I know my hardware limitations and do not exceed them or expect the software to run better if I do.

[Brett_Henderson]

To continue the car analogy...
Some are mainly concerned about the color and gas mileage.
Others are much more concerned about what's under the hood and handeling.
FSX does not meet expectations in either catagory
and has actually taken steps backwords in some aspects.

Then we'll just have to agree to disagree..  I see significant leaps, both aspects..

[NicksFXHouse]

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Then we'll just have to agree to disagree..

[Mobius]

I guess with me, it's just that I am enjoying all the improvements of default FSX over default FS9, that I'm disappointed when people come along and have a fixable problem, but aren't willing to fix them so they can enjoy it as well.  Oh well, I guess it's just a glass half full vs. half empty thing...