FSX ativation FAQ from MS.....

[MarcoAviator]

I am totally fine with MS trying to protect their work and their revenues. I never used pirated software and never will ...

My question is actually simple: I could not find this question answered clearly anywhere. If you can answer this or let me know a microsoft email addy I can send this to, I would appreciate it.

I just installed FSX on my computer. Works great. But 6 months from now I want to get a new computer (more powerful) to take advantage of all the FSX features.

Just to be clear I don't want to use FSX on two computer at the same time. I will uninstall FSX from my old rig and install it on the new one.

Will I be allowed to install my copy of FSX on my new computer? or will I be forced to buy a new license?

Anybody knows how to answer this question? or do you know of an email addy at Microsoft I can send my question to?

thanks!

[Katahu]

For my pennyworth!!! I would say that I am also against piracy, however I am also against a software company dictating to me "when, "how", "where", "what" hardware I can use.

Blame the pirates for your inconvenience. If it wasn't for them, you wouldn't have this problem.

[vololiberista]

I am totally fine with MS trying to protect their work and their revenues. I never used pirated software and never will ...

My question is actually simple: I could not find this question answered clearly anywhere. If you can answer this or let me know a microsoft email addy I can send this to, I would appreciate it.

I just installed FSX on my computer. Works great. But 6 months from now I want to get a new computer (more powerful) to take advantage of all the FSX features.

Just to be clear I don't want to use FSX on two computer at the same time. I will uninstall FSX from my old rig and install it on the new one.

Will I be allowed to install my copy of FSX on my new computer? or will I be forced to buy a new license?

Anybody knows how to answer this question? or do you know of an email addy at Microsoft I can send my question to?

thanks!

Ok well here in the EU M(qualcosa)s is not allowed to force you to re register say by internet or phone everytime you install on an upgraded PC. The programme itself cannot tell the difference everytime is is freshly installed.  The only way is by M(qualcosa)s registering every install. Here thats not allowed by law!!!!
Vololiberista

[MarcoAviator]

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Ok well here in the EU M(qualcosa)s is not allowed to force you to re register say by internet or phone everytime you install on an upgraded PC. The programme itself cannot tell the difference everytime is is freshly installed.

[Hagar]

[quote]Ok well here in the EU Microsoft is not allowed to force you to re register say by internet or phone everytime you install on an upgraded PC. The programme itself cannot tell the difference everytime is is freshly installed.

[Woodlouse2002]

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I wonder how that's gonna work, considering that you Euro-peons

[MarcoAviator]

Not quite true. How do you think those folks in non english speaking countries get theirs in a foreign lingo?

Yeah but they don't change the compiled code. They change the language files (which are generally only text files and don't require the software to be re-compiled). When they have software distributed to other countries they just give them the text files with the "symbols" in them linked to translated text.

But ... maybe I am wrong. I do software but not (alas) gaming software, so maybe it works different for FSX ...

[Hagar]

But ... maybe I am wrong. I do software but not (alas) gaming software, so maybe it works different for FSX ...

Woodlouse has a good point. I think it goes a little deeper than pure text files &

[vololiberista]

Ok, well unfortunately i can't provide a link as EU law is very convoluted  and it is quite difficult without costly subscriptions to get any detailed info. and this may not even be accessable via the net. You may have to order at a cost certain documents to be sent or downloaded. The fact that one can't find something on the net doesn't mean it isn't true.  When I use the net I am sometimes quite surprised that I can find something and on the other hand surprised that I cannot.
From a legal standpoint the EU laws covering consumer rights and protection are in themselves wide ranging enough without having to be specific. As i said in an earlier post EULA's are very difficult to enforce here. It's been tried largely without success.
Suffice to say that as far as XP goes, in the EU one does not have to register it with MS. The very first issues of XP did have to be registered but the EU protested and thereafter in future releases it was optional. Maybe FSX will go the same way (let's see) MS always seems to try something on until they get caught and as far as Vista is concerned the EU has already said "no way Jos

[Hagar]

The fact that one can't find something on the net doesn't mean it isn't true.

I accept that & you could well be correct. However, I always like to check my facts before posting bold statements on an open forum & quote reliable sources wherever possible. You are the only one that I have ever seen mention activation of WinXP in Europe being optional & if this is correct it surprises me. Even if it is correct I'm not convinced the same applies to FSX or other software. From what I can see the EU issues with Microsoft are yet to be resolved & likely to take a very long time. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4938610.stm

PS. There is a difference between activation & registration. Registration of all versions of WinXP IS optional. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/evaluation/features/activation.mspx

[757200ba]

Hello i just saw all this answers on this post.I think i ofended many opinions here, and for that IM SORRY.What i meant to say was (and some body also said it in a better english that mine ) did we buy the software or rented it. I know all fs are diferent , it was very good that everybody that upgraded machines for FSX could have the results they wanted, but unfort. there are many people that upgraded and bought the game and realised that is better to stay with FS9 (im not comparing them) not because they, want its because its expensive and they cant spend money like some other companions of flying can, but not just that they cant change the harware other wise they gonna fing that  all those rights they payd dont belong to them(im not talking about copyright), and i think thats wrong.Remember when the demo came out , there were already people saying that that was strange.
In conclusion once again IM SORRY if i ofended anybody, i love this forum and i've learned so many with the OBI-ONES that i couldnt lieve without them.
IM SORRY
Many thaks
PS- sorry about my english

[vololiberista]

Ciao 757etc!!!
Don't worry sometimes passions get inflamed but our passion is the sim and for those of who do real flying we get a double kick!! lol
Yes, if M(qualcosa)s had their way they would certainly make you believe you have rented the programmme.  You have bought it and they cannot pretend otherwise. They might get upset if you modified their code and published / sold the modification!
I was quite amused to read the link in Hagar's post that already some people are having to upgrade their dvd players "just" in order to install FSX!!!!!!

As a real pilot I would shudder at having to use M(qualcosa)s software in my a/c This image says it all!

[Joe_D]

I am totally fine with MS trying to protect their work and their revenues. I never used pirated software and never will ...

My question is actually simple: I could not find this question answered clearly anywhere. If you can answer this or let me know a microsoft email addy I can send this to, I would appreciate it.

I just installed FSX on my computer. Works great. But 6 months from now I want to get a new computer (more powerful) to take advantage of all the FSX features.

Just to be clear I don't want to use FSX on two computer at the same time. I will uninstall FSX from my old rig and install it on the new one.


Will I be allowed to install my copy of FSX on my new computer? or will I be forced to buy a new license?

Anybody knows how to answer this question? or do you know of an email addy at Microsoft I can send my question to?

thanks!

If I understand the FAQs correctly........

The short answer is, no one has to buy a new license no mater how many times they install it.

1) You can re- install/activate it as many time as you like as long as you don't change major

[pepper_airborne]

Volibrista, when you press acept at the EULA then they have permission to scan the computer, in fact, you dont even own the software, you are only allowd to use it for a determined period of time.

[vololiberista]

Volibrista, when you press acept at the EULA then they have permission to scan the computer, in fact, you dont even own the software, you are only allowd to use it for a determined period of time.

This is the nub of the problem!!! That's technically illegal and in fact there are many cases annually involving EULA disputes.  American law and European law differ on many points. For example in the USA you have to give permission NOT to receive publicity. There are many websites for example that don't provide for this or if they do it's not obvious. Of course many do make it obvious.
On the other hand as far as UK, EU and Italian law goes it is the complete opposite. Here it is assumed you DO NOT want publicity unless you expressly ask for it.
Here I'm legally entitled to take any software co. to court  for having been coerced into giving permission to be spied upon just in order to use their software.  As said previously most EULA cases heard in the EU fail because here the only enforceable part of the EULA is copyright of the code. Many large commercial enterprises play the game in order not to get involved in expensive legal suites so the software co's effectively get away with malpractice!!
Vololiberista
PS I'm off to add Windows and everything else to my spyware programme !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!