Sorry but I like FSX

[MarcoAviator]

I don't know if this is going to be a popular statement, since I have seen a lot of people expressing unhappiness and frustration about FSX (which is understandable, I have to say).

Personally, in spite of all the issues, I like FSX and I am going to stick to it.

I don't have a system capable of taking advantage of its full potential, but I can see that potential in the future.

Most of my payware doesn't work with it. Chances are I will need to pay for upgrades to get that payware to work.

I can see graphic glitches all over the place, especially where the water meets land or where water is shallow.

Pulling up one or two extra sub-windows (like the G1000) slows the system to a crawl.

When the issues are fixed and the payware is working ... and I got a new system (it will take a while, I don't grow money on trees, but let's tell the truth ... sooner or later you gotta upgrade to a new system, I mean, none of us are not running 80286 anymore, are we?) ... FSX will shine.

In the meanwhile I still like it as is. I think that the modelling of the acceleration effects on the Point of View in the virtual cockpit contribute IMMENSELY to the immersion.

I fly in real life and I can't claim I am a "super pilot" (I had a flight in Pitts once and pulled a few Gs ... I fly a Piper Cherokee most of the time and 99% of my flights are takeoff, straight and level, land ... all in good weather). But I have to say that I find it exciting landing in a vicious crosswind with moderate turbulence ... and FSX, given similar conditions, does give you a feel of "adrenaline rush".

The feel of having to fly the path and fight the plane at the same time is something that FS9 never quite gave me.

True, moderate turbulence in my world, means getting my ass kicked. Moderate turbulence in real life is nothing to sneeze at. In FSX in order to get close to the same "feeling" you need to turn the intensity all the way up ... but the feeling of "fighting" the plane and the weather is there all right.

I also love the fact that you can fly out of the atmosphere. I can't wait for developers to come up with some kick-ass X-plane and then take that into VATSIM ... or the pilot-club network. Let's watch the controllers deal with a space-shuttle re-entry for once!

FSX has issues, yes, but it's got potential and even with all the effects turned to medium-low (which is the most my system can take) I am still getting a kick out it.

I think that as it is right now FSX for me is already beating FS9. I am already finding it difficult if not impossible to go back to FS9. In fact at this point, I can't fly FS9 anymore ... as is, FSX is my game.

FSX is a worthy successor of FS9.

Sorry to say: I like it.


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[C]

Overall, with my expectations of it not running brilliantly on a 18month old PC, I like it too. Since it came out I've done about 7hrs, compared to probably no more than 2/month with FS9.

[RollerBall]

I don't think you'll find that anyone who has been critical of FSX has said it's because they don't like it. That's far too simplistic. There will always be features in any program that people like and don't like and there's no point going into those again.

The points of criticism have been about things that are much more fundamental - mesh errors that we weren't told about that must have been apparent when the program was tested,  lots of autogen that hangs off valley and canyon sides that (a) shouldn't be there, (b) wasn't there in FS9, and (c) shouldn't be suspended in thin air anyway, MS's promotion and packaging of the product, stuff like that.

I think that we have a right to expect more from a piece of software that has had so much money thrown at it - especially marketing money (look at all the seminars, promos and demos that were held all over - must have cost an arm and a leg). As purchasers we have a right to question whether the priorities were right and whether that money would have been better spent on completing the development of the product to the level we had all been given to expect it was at, before it was launched.

Please don't let's start another 900 page thread over this one as we know from an Insider that there was some level of agreement with this notion within the development team.

[Joe_D]

Right , it's not that some don't like FSX or fail see its potential, etc.

The problem lies with MS and the way they constantly release programs with known bugs, etc just to meet a fall sales deadline.

They are either not listening to their BETA testers or the BETA testers are not reporting bugs for fear of offending MS/ACES

Either way, they are purposly releasing programs with known, obvious bugs and then, have the nerve to advertise a feature when they clearly know the feature/function does not work as advertised.

Bottom line, if the vast majority was in an uproar over this practice, they would think twice about doing it.
However the people who are offended by this practice are in the minority.

As far as ACES, they are obviously at the root of the problem as they are the developer.
They either need better management to identify bugs or add another programmer as it somtimes seems they are in over their heads.

It also speaks volumes that the

[Katahu]

I agree with the fact that FSX has potential. It's like an old '65 Mustang that will be sitting on a garage for quite a while before someone comes along , dusts it off and revives it to its full potential.

[KDSM]

The know they can throw out a buggy, incomplete program because the majority will not complain.

And they know the FS community will finish it for them

[RollerBall]

I agree with the fact that FSX has potential. It's like an old '65 Mustang that will be sitting on a garage for quite a while before someone comes along , dusts it off and revives it to its full potential.

No, it's more like a brand new Ferrari that is supposed to have fuel injection - but someone's fitted old carburettors to it. It'll start and run, but not like a Ferrari should. And we paid for fuel injection.....

Then there's a ring on the doorbell, and the guy from UPS says, 'Got a package for yuh...'

We're waiting for that guy from UPS....

[justplanecrazy]

Well i liked the demo a lot. though it had a lot of potintal. it semed to run better and look better than flight sim 9 on my old computor before it bit the dust even if it was a bit buggy. i will defently up grade to flight sim X when my new comp arives. however i think the devepoters bit off more than the could chew and released the sim a bit early just to get it on the market before the holidays. hopefuly they will come thru with the patches to adress most of the issues. other wise  i feel this release might do some harm to the FS Name.

[bbstackerf]

Is their bombarding the tv with ads everywhere? Here in Phoenix the ad must be on about 5 times a day on the Military channel. Seems like they're really pushin for sales. I don't think I ever saw a commercial for FS9.


Keni

[KDSM]

Is their bombarding the tv with ads everywhere? Here in Phoenix the ad must be on about 5 times a day on the Military channel. Seems like they're really pushin for sales. I don't think I ever saw a commercial for FS9.


Keni

Wonder if all the advertiseing has anything to do with mr. Gates' retireing? I mean he retires and all of a sudden MS starts advertiseing.

[Bubblehead]

Don't wait upgrading your rig too long. I read in a PC Magazine that there are now mobos supporting  "quad" CPUs. Soon "FSX-E" will be out before FSX had time to perform as expected. Peronally, I will keep my rig (above average) and play with the FSX the best way I can. If I upgrade my rig now, to what level of performance shall I upgrade it to? And am I willing (or able) to spend a few hundred bucks to upgrade my rig just for the FSX. If I get frustrated with FSX, I still have FS9, CFS3 and Lock-On, all at max setting that I can enjoy playing.

Bubblehead

[JBaymore]

Then there's a ring on the doorbell, and the guy from UPS says, 'Got a package for yuh...'

We're waiting for that guy from UPS....

And....... the box contains a sheepskin seat cover, some fuzzy dice to hang on the rearview mirror, and an improved cigarette lighter.

[JBaymore]

Is their bombarding the tv with ads everywhere? Here in Phoenix the ad must be on about 5 times a day on the Military channel. Seems like they're really pushin for sales. I don't think I ever saw a commercial for FS9.

Here in New Hampshire I'm seeing ti all the time on the History Channel.  I never saw one for fs2004 either.  What is very intreresting is the content of the ad and the obvious target market.

best,

....john

[Brett_Henderson]

Yes, I have FSX and have evey right to complain!
I should not have to wait for a patch or new hardware that does not even exist yet, to run a program (that I purchased yesterday) as advertised.  

I agree about the patch stuff. It's like "they" just take it for granted that we'll accept bugs and count on patches.. It's "their" way.. Has been since Windows hit the market.

But, software that will not only push current hardware to its limit.. but grow into the next technology is kinda like a bonus.. Isn't it ?  Surely you don't think that because FSX can avail dual-core, 64-bit, DX10 operating systems and hardware, that they shouldn't even sell it until that stuff is out ?

[IcraveAkro]

I have about 30 hours so far of flying time on FSX and I am pretty impressed with it. I knew before I got it that I wouldn't be able to run it with everything maxxed out but my system seems to handle it with everything at medium to medium high settings. The flight dynamics for aerobatics haven't improved but oh well. I am a line service specialist at Colgan Air Service in La Crosse Wisconsin and I think its pretty cool that I can request fuel trucks. Also the terrain has improved greatly. In FS9 the bluffs in my area looked like small hills and in FSX they actually look like bluffs and all the bridges are where they are suppose to be.
I also enjoy the challenges but I also miss the lessons and getting the virtual pilot certificates. I start my flight training in the spring time and I was talking to my future instructor and he said that the simulator is a good aid for getting idea of certain procedures. Sure there are a few glitches but if you look at the upside of the sim, its well worth it.

Bill Beseler
Pilot
American Virtual Airshows