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Re: ...experiences with FSX...

Postby supernova45849850l » Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:16 am


..at a quick guess now...

When I first started it up with a few things turned down, the frame rates were between 1 and 2 FPS..impossible to move...!!
....Then, with most everything was turned down to zero, (no clouds, no water, no traffic, etc), except the scenery and autogen, (to get a nice scene), which was set half way, the frame rates juddered around 5-7 FPS in open countryside.
...I still can't make it out, compared with the smooth FS 2004 scenery and autogen, and EVERYTHING set at maximum settings, and all the blocks ticked....30 FPS locked at 30 FPS.... :'(...!

Looking at my set-up listed below, It's not going to run FSX at all, and a major hardware up-grade would be necessary...Motherboard, processor, graphics card, memory, etc, etc...everything...
...trust me... :'(...!

I keep looking at my lovely screen shots of all my FS 2004 smoothy-smoothy scenes, and compare them with what I see in FSX and I am extremely disappointed.... :'(...!

It's going to be a major, very expensive, hardware up-grade to run FSX and show it at its best....!!

Paul... 8)...!

P.S. My BFG nVidia 6600GT O/C 525 MHz, 128Mb, card is fine for FS 2004, but definitely not for FSX...!!


Thanks for that Foz, So you recommend your card for FS9 sliders up inc autogen? excellent, thats what I will go for then! At the moment I have AGP nvidia FX5200 128MB. Am I right in believing that if I add a PCI graphics card and leave the AGP in, the 2 cards will work together? or can I only have 1 card? its FS9 all the way for me Bill can stick FSX!
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Re: ...experiences with FSX...

Postby wealthysoup » Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:56 am

only 1 card will work, id reccommend something faster than a 6600gt although it depends on the rest of your system DONT get standard pci cards they are really slow, pci express are faster than agp but if you got an agp slot on your motherboard itwont have pci express  ;)
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Re: ...experiences with FSX...

Postby Fozzer » Sun Oct 15, 2006 7:39 am

only 1 card will work, id reccommend something faster than a 6600gt although it depends on the rest of your system DONT get standard pci cards they are really slow, pci express are faster than agp but if you got an agp slot on your motherboard itwont have pci express  ;)


For all those enthusiasts who want to stick to their trusty AGP motherboard, there are some excellent versions of the latest, fast, alternatives to cards for PCIe slots...>>>

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/ ... Cards.html

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Re: ...experiences with FSX...

Postby supernova45849850l » Sun Oct 15, 2006 7:50 am

I have a P4 2.8ghz at the moment with 512MB RAM that i will be upgrading to 1GB shortly. I have been looking at 256MB AGP card that seem to float around the
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Re: ...experiences with FSX...

Postby commoner » Sun Oct 15, 2006 7:57 am

....basically I want to run FS9 all sliders max inc autogen at 30FPS.  


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Re: ...experiences with FSX...

Postby JBaymore » Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:02 am

[quote]If so what model?? basically I want to run FS9 all sliders max inc autogen at 30FPS.
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Re: ...experiences with FSX...

Postby HawkerTempest5 » Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:39 am

This all reminds me of CFS3. When I got my copy the machine I had was much, much better than the recommended specs, but would it run? I had to spend around
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Re: ...experiences with FSX...

Postby Fozzer » Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:55 am

...just done another re-run with FSX....
Medium to high scenery, buildings, trees  (Autogen)...Necessary!
No traffic of any sort.
No special water effects.
Custom Weather; Few simple cirrus clouds, visibility set to 5-10 miles.

Frame rates vary between 6 -11 - 15 FPS around 'Frisco Bay. (locked at 15).

But....But...But....

Although I have a FULL install, most of my jittery problems seem to be related to insufficient MEMORY... :o...!

I have 3 sticks of 256 Mb of DDR Memory = 768 Mb in total.

A peek at the Hard Drive light see it constantly spooling out data at slow speed, causing the jitters, when it should be spooling smoothly out of high speed DDR MEMORY...lots of it...:o...!

Even sat on the ground with the motor ticking over I see the Hard Drive light constantly flickering away...!!

In my FS 2004, all the running data is contained in my memory, and the Hard Drive only lights up when first starting the program, after that it runs smoothly from memory....:-*...!

So....

I reckon, for FSX to run S M O O T H L Y I need LOADS more Memory installed on my Motherboard... :'(...!

More flippin' money... :'(...!

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Re: ...experiences with FSX...

Postby wealthysoup » Sun Oct 15, 2006 12:46 pm

i've got 1gb ram...and it needs more, probably around 2 gb fozzer ;)

also setting autogen to sparse is more dense than fs9 on maximum setting ;)
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Re: ...experiences with FSX...

Postby Serpent_6 » Sun Oct 15, 2006 1:35 pm

Strange thing is that all those FSX problems with FPS you mention are now happening to me on FS9 :'( It keeps jumping from 5 to 20 fps very fast cousing stutters and jittering all around while it used to be a steady 25 to 30 with all sliders on max. I did a complete reinstall from my C partition to the reletively unused D partition and i get the same crap :-/ :'( :( I have deinstalled it again and i seriuesly considering dumping it forever for FSX becouse i get bad performance anyway ;)
Other games run great by the way, like Battlefield 2 and Lock On and they are not the lightest games for your pc :P

I have had it for a while now, 2 years of making FS great is all gone :'( :'( :(
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Re: ...experiences with FSX...

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Re: ...experiences with FSX...

Postby RollerBall » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:17 am

I was playing around with the demo again yesterday evening - originally I found on my rig that it was the external/spot views mainly that crucified my rig, getting something like 2/3 FPS. My cockpit views were bearable. Also my aircraft textures were lousy.

I turned off self shadowing last night and my FR shot up to 15 (target 15). Also my aircraft textures were much improved.

I then pushed all the sliders up to well over the mid points and still had FR in spot view in double digits or just under with water only one notch from max.

I have to say, I was surprised and I don't know why I didn't do this before  ::)

BTW I have an AMD 64 3000+ with my unmasked AGP 6800LE but I'm only running with 1 GB RAM (had to use the other 1 GB for something else...) so it could be even better with the other gig back in.

Has any else been as stoopid as me and not tried turning self shadowing off? If so, you might be quite surprised if you do  ;)
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Re: ...experiences with FSX...

Postby Gunny04 » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:53 am

Well FSX Loves 2 gigs of ram..... I went from 1 gig to two and it takes it all, I ran FSX in Window mode with my Task manager up and saw all 1.6 gigs of available ram being used..... or rather devoured.... FSX Runs stuttery for me (I guarantee its the Graphics card, come on 163Mhz overclock is worthless on a 4 pipe card) so all I need is a graphics card, on medium settings I can run 15FPS relativly well with a few stutters here and there, this is with the maule. Because I am usually doing bush flying and not Long hauls in heavies at the moment, I'm really not much for a loss! (Oh and I tweaked my FSX CFG quite alot) also, is the self shadow setting in the CFG or in the 'in game' settings?

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Re: ...experiences with FSX...

Postby RollerBall » Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:08 am

Well, FS lovers, I've not seen anyone recommending to turn off self-shadowing before (but then again, I may have missed it as I don't get around very much.. ??? ) but doing so has transformed the demo for me. BTW - it's in settings..aircraft..aircraft casts shadows on itself.

I just took off from Bradshaw in the CRJ in a heavy thunderstorm (lightning, heavy rain, rain reflecting on runway, spray from wheels while taxying and from jet blast when engines spooled up for take off) and flew straight into heavy cloud, flew away from the airport for several minutes, called up Tower for directions to return and landed again, all manually (ie like a simulated emergency - great fun, real seat of pants stuff).

In cockpit and external views FR hardly fell below 16 FPS (target 16)

Have to be careful - at this rate might end up buying it...  ???
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Re: ...experiences with FSX...

Postby Fozzer » Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:00 am


I turned off self shadowing last night


Has any else been as stoopid as me and not tried turning self shadowing off? If so, you might be quite surprised if you do  ;)


Psssst.....Uncle Bill is Shadowing me, at the moment...:o...!

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