New FSX demo

[Wing Nut]

Well, I think I'll just wait for the game.  It's only a short time away, and I don't see the possibility a a huge difference, so why bother.  Now if someone can tell me where I can ge the beta without having to sign up for membership in a site I'll neve use again, let's talk...  ;)

[cleobis]

just started to download it, and only 13 min to go...hehe...it's going at 1mb/sec

[Rocket_Bird]

Just tried it out.  Performance wise it seems pretty much the same as the last demo.  There doesnt seem to be as much blurries, though its still apparent.  Some graphics issue fixed... thats about it  :-X

Oh theres a lear 45 to try out

[KDSM]

800mb Shouldnt be too much of a problem
Any wildlife?

[ashaman]

Are we buying a new version of FS only for the wildlife? Or only for the traffic on the streets, perhaps?

Personally that's one of the first things I'll be disabling, and will not enable even when I'll be able to build up a rig capable of running all the graphics at their max.

This FSX is the Great Bluff of the flight simulation history. Instead of better what is really important to grant a more real-like simulation, they made the graphics nicer to the view, put cars in the streets and wildlife in the woodwork.

Will we be able to pilot a elephant, I can't help but ask? Or will I be be able to shoot a deer at the very least?

No?

Then why put it.

Aaah, they asked you to give a reason to common people to buy new hardware... I see, now.

If it wasn't that I MUST use it for work, I'll not be installing the Great Bluff of the FS history. And the new so-called "advanced graphics" will be the first thing I'll be disabling anyway.

Way to go, I'll have a sim that is all in all similar to FS9, with only marginal betterments, but on which none of the payware I bought for FS9 will work. Tell me please how lucky I am.

I just feel lucky that I won't have to pay for it.

Really.


PS
As I am part of a site of FS payware reviews, and a reviewer myself, FSX I'll need to work with, so my boss will be shipping me a free FSX deluxe package. But I'm really crying for the space on the HD I must sacrifice for it. 14 Gb lost for naught.

FS9 I won't be unistalling anytime soon, the last serious version of FS to this very moment.

[Gunny04]

its actually quite an improvement, it seems helos fly better, The graphic and camera updates are nicer, ridding out 2d panels and making 3d ones a tad easier, thats a nice improvement, Scenery that reminds me of Megascenery and loads 80% faster than megascenery, thats a plus..... Great water reflections/textures thats neat, Earth curvature and what not..... I'd say its an improvement..... if you dont like it, then why did you agree with the 'boss' to get it eh? if its such a hastle dont do it, quit whining, and enjoy your payware filled FS9 for another 2-4 years!  ;D or at least try it when you get it, and see if you like it...... Damn.... why is FSX causing so many people to go nuts? Cheers, Gunny

[JBaymore]

ashaman,

How do you expect people to take your reviews seriously if you have this kind of attitude about the platform that those payware products will be designed to function within?

[Daube]

Are we buying a new version of FS only for the wildlife? Or only for the traffic on the streets, perhaps?

Personally that's one of the first things I'll be disabling, and will not enable even when I'll be able to build up a rig capable of running all the graphics at their max.

This FSX is the Great Bluff of the flight simulation history. Instead of better what is really important to grant a more real-like simulation, they made the graphics nicer to the view, put cars in the streets and wildlife in the woodwork.

Will we be able to pilot a elephant, I can't help but ask? Or will I be be able to shoot a deer at the very least?

No?

Then why put it.

Aaah, they asked you to give a reason to common people to buy new hardware... I see, now.

If it wasn't that I MUST use it for work, I'll not be installing the Great Bluff of the FS history. And the new so-called "advanced graphics" will be the first thing I'll be disabling anyway.

Way to go, I'll have a sim that is all in all similar to FS9, with only marginal betterments, but on which none of the payware I bought for FS9 will work. Tell me please how lucky I am.

I just feel lucky that I won't have to pay for it.

Really.


PS
As I am part of a site of FS payware reviews, and a reviewer myself, FSX I'll need to work with, so my boss will be shipping me a free FSX deluxe package. But I'm really crying for the space on the HD I must sacrifice for it. 14 Gb lost for naught.

FS9 I won't be unistalling anytime soon, the last serious version of FS to this very moment.

You're quite inconsistent in your thoughts.
You say that FSX is just a stupid graphical enhancement for FS9, and then you say that you want to stay with FS9 ? But FS9 was just a stupid graphical enhancement for FS2002, so why don't you stay with FS2002 instead?

I also see that once again someone is complaining about the wildlife. Then why don't you complain about the AI as well ? I mean, AI does not bring anything to your realism, just hog some more ressources.

As well, why don't you just disable the textures in FS9 ? Textures are useless you know, they have no influence at all on the realism.

However, as stated just above, I'm a bit scared that some media let such partial guys as you write reviews. You are only able to ignore completely the improvements made to a plateform, and focus only on the very superficial stuff. You're quite professionnal aren't you ?

I almost sure that in your review:

• you will not talk about the overall performance improvement (remember FSX beta runs better than FS9 with the same amount of details ?),
  
• you will not talk about the new SDKs (yeah, who cares about the new types of addons that were not possible in FS9 anyway),
  
• you will not talk about the major improvements of the glider experience (sure, a plane without motors must be useless),
  
• you will not talk about the improved scenery resolution, with much more autogen details allowed and much more precise meshes and textures (sure, this is just graphics, VFR is for n00bs, only FMC is the real thing)
  
• you will not talk about the tower controller features (this is a flight sim, who cares about the tower ?)
  
• you will not talk about the new earth and space (flight sim, anything else than a cessna in useless)
  
• you will not talk about the improved multiplayer experience, new multiplayer engine, shared skies etc...( multipayer is for gamers, nobody cares about the possibility of simulating a real crew, right ?)
  
• you will not talk about the improved quality of the default airplanes, quality of the VC etc... (yeah, just graphics, and VC is useless, only the 2D panel is for real pilots, right ? Plus, nobody cares about the default aircrafts anyway)
  
• you will not talk about the new camera system (Who cares about the camera ? Outside view is unrealistic, and no camera is needed for 2D cockpits)
  
• you will not talk about the new mission engine and mission editor (missions are for gamers, who cares about simulating real life situations anyway ?)
  
• ...err... damned, it seems that I cannot remember all that list of useless stuff included in FSX and that fortunately FS9 do not have.

If you want to keep with FS9, keep with it and don't bother the people waiting for FSX. And PLEASE, don't write any reviews on this product, nor on its addons. There's already too much subjective reviews everywhere.

[jlvandem]

Well on a positive note I personally feel this new demo is a large improvement over the first. I'm running nearly all the sliders to the max except for ground traffic because I don't feel ground traffic is all that necessary in a FLIGHT simulator. So with all of those settings I'm getting anywhere from 15 to 20 FPS with the dips coming in over the heavily populated areas. My system specs are a Core Duo (1.83 Ghz clock speed) 2 gig RAM and ATI X1400 256 mb notebook video card. Now knowing that I'm getting that kind of performance on a rather high end notebook I'm sure the newer PCs coming out are going to run this like a dream. Unfortunately that gets expensive and I just got lucky to be going to college at the same time as FSX was on it's way  ;D my other machine wouldn't even come close to running this at all. So guess it's time for most to start upgrading if you want the most out of the new sim otherwise you will probably just have to turn things down for the time being and even then it's still great in the eye candy department... at least to me as I'm still running FS2002. So now that I've completely lost track of where I was going because of the news coverage of storms coming my way in south western Michigan I'll stop rambling.

Justin

[Mobius]

Here you go Ashaman, I found the perfect simulator for you (you might want to disable the motion though, it is rather frivolous)...

http://www.linktrainers.com/

...although, you might not be able to use your payware with it, but who needs all that payware anyway? It just makes the whole flight simulator experience more entertaining, with all the nice (but completely stupid and unnecessary) graphics, flight dynamics, "missions" (sorry, pre-setup custom flights), and options available.

Or here, I just made the perfect version of flight simulator...

...perfect!  No stupid animals, frivilous ATC, or unnecessary virtual cockpit.  Nope, just the ground (black) and the sky (white).  We don't want any color in there, no needless wasting of computer resources by rendering color, no sir.



Sorry, did I go overboard? This post is totally unproductive and really not necessary, but I was having too much fun.

[Gunny04]

I must not be alone with my opinions then? Cheers, Gunny (I Like the Black ground and white sky idea, their is an invention nobody can complain about! well, maybe not)

[Wing Nut]

Methinks I detect a bit of attention seeking in the above post...  ;)

[vololiberista]

..... Damn.... why is FSX causing so many people to go nuts? Cheers, Gunny

Because it's made by a company that wants to control our lives!!!!   Ps No swearing!
Vololiberista

[Gunny04]

I dont think M$ is trying to control our lives  ;D and I thought I was the only one who really hated it when people complained about things that arent even out yet... anyways.... We'll see what FSX is when it comes out! Cheers, Gunny

[vololiberista]

I will do a partial upgrade to get better results from FS9 (fortunately I have XP pro otherwise I would have to .... a nightmare!!!!)  Then I'll wait until the European version of Vista (that version will not need to be registered for activation) is available and then for DX10. In my opinion FSX won't be worth the trouble until then!!
Vololiberista