To those who complaine about the demo

[BAW0343]

SHUT UP ITS A FREAKING DEMO.  How freaking stupid do you have to be to complaine about AN UNFINISHED ALPHA VERSION DEMO. MS said that some things wont work, and they didnt. The most recent complaint was jasper who claims MS lied to all of us even though others were able to do what he wasnt able to.  Diffrent computers have diffrent results, thats how it works. Im tired of coming into the FSX forum and seeing all of your patetic little complaints. "I can't see through the window" "I cant get a FS9 plane to load" FSX DEMO wasnt made to workk 100% you need to wait untill the FULL VERSION comes out, if it doesent work then, and MS has NOT Acnoledged this, then AND ONLY THEN may you complane. Aslo you have verry little right to criticize and complane about this unless you think you can do better. If you think you can, by ALL MEANS DO IT! I would love to see something better. Untill then i will be happy i was able to play FSX and get a prieview of the sim and i personally am very excited about it.  ;D Now enough complaineing, if you have nothing good to say go to abother section, WE HAVE PLENTY. Thank you and good day, i hope i didn't offend anyone too much  ;)

[PsychoDiablo]

Amen

[Splash]

Amen, Brother.......
Splash (Ed)

[MattNW]

I only have one complaint. At over 600mb by the time I get the demo downloaded they'll have FS12 out.  ;D

Good point to the bitching is that by the time the full version is released I'll know what to expect out of my hardware and whether getting FSX is worth it. Also if any of the current issues do carry over I'll know some workarounds.

Back when FS2004 was released we just had to put out the $60, watch the slide show and count our savings toward a new system.

[Woodlouse2002]

Could you use paragraphs in your next rant? Difficult to read else.

[Felix/FFDS]

Could you use paragraphs in your next rant? Difficult to read else.

Actually, that was my first reaction.  My ancient eyes can't read long strings that well anymore.....

On the other hand, the first sentences gave a good preview of the rest of the posting, so you really didn't need to read it all...  :)

[Katahu]

Even though I am dedicated FS fan and I support Microsoft by being its unofficial guinea pig [ ], I believe Jasper's early comments in regards to the backwards compatibility issue was only out of ignorance [in which I am ok with] because he didn't know much about the other addons that were recently tested by Rollerball. Am I right, Jasper? maybe not [ ]. His view over the whole issue quickly changed as he came to realise that it was mainly a hardware issue and not really a demo bug after all. So you can drop the comment about Jasper B****ing.

However, I do strongly agree about BAW's other examples.

There is one thing I like to address. Rumors. For example: I see people in forums [outside of SimV] that actually say negative things as if they were "fact" without backing them up. At one time over at the FS2004.com forums there was this one guy who claimed that he went to Oshkosh and tried out the beta version. All he ever said was:

"Don't buy it. It's a piece of crab. It's no better than FS9."

He didn't say "I think" or "in my opinion". Therefore he was spreading such a rumor as if it was fact without either providing visual proof and without even elaborating as to "why" it's no better than FS9. And believe it or not, a few other members actually believed him without question.

It only takes one to spread the rumors like that. Imagine having a few doing the same thing. Had this man been more constructive with his criticism [which Microsoft is looking for - as it seems these days] I would have believed him.

[cheesegrater]

Seriously, how much different will the demo be from the full version? It will be pretty much the same. Maybe if the demo was released a year ago you would have a valid point.

People criticize the demo. Who cares? Did Microsoft pay you to get so worked up about it? Don't worry, Microsoft will still make money on it.

[Fr. Bill]

Seriously, how much different will the demo be from the full version? It will be pretty much the same. Maybe if the demo was released a year ago you would have a valid point.

It will be very, very, very different in the release version.  Realize one thing, if nothing else...

...FSX is in the capable hands of professionals, not a garage full of script kiddies...

[cheesegrater]

Well, it will have more features since this is only a demo, but the stuff that is already in the demo will be the same in the full version, and I wouldn't expect it to run any faster on your system.

[Daube]

The demo was released at the very beginning of the Beta-test phase, where MS told that program performance was not optimised at all yet.
I personnaly expect the full product to run better than the beta demo.

[ebouwman]

Seriously, how much different will the demo be from the full version? It will be pretty much the same. Maybe if the demo was released a year ago you would have a valid point.

People criticize the demo. Who cares? Did Microsoft pay you to get so worked up about it? Don't worry, Microsoft will still make money on it.

Demos usually really suck.

When i tried an age of empires 3 demo (after the release of the game) it was pretty bad, the frame rate wasn't great, the screen scrolled way too fast and there were some really bad visual glitches.

When i bought age of empires 3 it had none of these glitches and even though the demo didn't work well, the full version worked great.

So ya, first of all its gonna suck because it's modified from the origional program, and second its a prerelease demo so nothing is quite finished, what do you expect.

[PisTon]

It's a demo which was made out of a beta. That beta is already old, many bugs are gone

[richardd43]

Without any cities to fly over or some heavy add-on terrain I was averaging about 50 FPS with everything set at max.

That was surprising, I really thought I would do better over the water and the fact that there is sparce vegitation on the islands.

Who knows though, it is a demo and I was not expecting the best effort anyway.

Also I have the 7900 GTX in the computer, tomorrow I will try it with the 7950 and see if there is any difference.

I would be interested in hearing how it runs in SLI or Crossfire mode if anyone has tried it yet.

[RollerBall]

I would be interested in hearing how it runs in SLI or Crossfire mode if anyone has tried it yet.

John (Sir_Jon) already has and posted pics. He reports excellent results.

I just cannot understand how anyone can criticise this demo. I was unhappy in the beginning because my rig's performance at high settings was unusable. Since then I've cut things down and I'm constantly amazed by the demo's feature richness compared to earlier versions.

Let's get one thing straight. This is NOT a picee of software that's been designed to run on low-end kit. It never was intended to be and it will NEVER do so. It's brand new for goodness sake and cutting edge. If your kit isn't you can't expect great results. Mine isn't and I realise now that I have to accept that and find a way of upgrading if I want to experience everything this software is capable of delivering. No good going off at MS if you're still running a 3 year old Duron and an MX graphics card!

Everyone talks about the new water - and yes, it's amazing (although a FR hog). But today I saw the birds for the first time (they seem to be associated with the large ships - go have a look for yourself) and even black and untextured (they were in my sim anyway) it's obvious they will be highly effective and a great contribution to the sim's realism. Same goes with all the moving traffic.

And that's the point. This sim is probably as close as you can get for realism even with the latest cutting edge PC technology. And that's what will make it such a fantastic success. So fellas, stand back and shut up for a while. There's never been anything like it before and I'm sure that in the future there will be many more similar 'total immersion' experiences to come. But it's probably the first (to my knowledge) of it's kind and I think you're seeing history being made.