What aircraft would we like to see in FSX?

[BFMF]

Why ask for every aircraft you want to fly be included in FSX when 3rd party developers develop far better aircraft packages than the default ones?

Why hope that MS will include aircrafts such as B767s, and other airbus models when I'm sure most people who fly the heavies don't even fly the default 737, 747, 777, but download better 3rd party versions?

[Felix/FFDS]

[quote]Why ask for every aircraft you want to fly be included in FSX when 3rd party developers develop far better aircraft packages than the default ones?
quote]


Just because we can....

I think then, that it's justifiable for Microsoft to offer the Morane "N" or Etrich "Taube", with fully flexing wing warping!...

I want it! I want it! I want it! I want it! I want it!
and NOW!

[flyboy 28]

I just started flying the default FS9 airplanes again. Mostly the Mooney, Cub, DC-3 and Lear 45. I still think now more than ever people take them for granted..

[Skligmund]

I was thinking 'Grumman Widgeon' but I see that they went Goose....

Oh, and the J-3 is a great plane to fly, I love practicing practical STOL. How short can you land your Cub?

[Fozzer]

I just started flying the default FS9 airplanes again. Mostly the Mooney, Cub, DC-3 and Lear 45. I still think now more than ever people take them for granted..

Too right.... ...!
...and just about everyone seems to forget that only the default aircraft appear correctly in Multiplayer!.... ...!

A good reason for a WIDE selection of Default aircraft!

For local hops I use the default Piper Cub.
For short flights I use the default Cessna 172/182.
For long flights I use the default Beech Baron.

They always show-up correctly to others.......!
...3rd party aircraft dont!...( ...!

Paul... ...!

[Poseidon]

Despite the obvious MS "phobia" against European aircrafts, with the inevitable exception of the FS2000 Concorde, I would expect another inevitable exception: The Airbus A380.

[C]

To be fair there are 3 european aircraft in FS9:

The DH88 Comet, the Vimy and the Extra 300...

[Poseidon]

I was actually refering to airliners. I fly almost only airliners and I tend to omit the rest aircrafts.

[expat]

To be fair there are 3 european aircraft in FS9:

The DH88 Comet, the Vimy and the Extra 300...

Better an Extra 400, I would have a fighting chance of staying in controle

Matt

As for default aircraft, the DC3 is one of my favorites to potter around in.

[Fozzer]

......Matt

As for default aircraft, the DC3 is one of my favourites to potter around in.

A lovely old plane......!

...except that I just can't get used to those old radios, after the luxury of tuning a modern Bendix-King radio stack, (Cessna 172/182, etc)... ...!

....(actually, I've cheated, and fitted a Bendix-King radio stack in my default DC-3. Now I don't get lost anymore!)... ... ...!

LOL...!

Paul... ...!

[Hagar]

Too right.... ...!
...and just about everyone seems to forget that only the default aircraft appear correctly in Multiplayer!.... ...!

They always show-up correctly to others.......!
...3rd party aircraft dont!...( ...!

I've never tried Multiplayer myself but surely that would depend on whether you have those 3rd party aircraft installed yourself? The latest 3rd party models (created with Gmax for FS9) should display correctly including animations & all the bells & whistles.

There's a CFG tweak in earlier versions of FS/CFS where you can send & receive the visual model & textures of 3rd party aircraft between the other players. From what I was told this was a tad graphcs intensive & could cause delays but that was before most people had powerful systems & broadband connections. For it to work correctly all players would obviously have to do the tweak.

These are the entries under [MULTIPLAYER] in fs9.cfg
Change all the values to 1 & try it.

ALLOW_PLANE_MODEL_SEND=0
ALLOW_PLANE_MODEL_RECEIVE=0
ALLOW_TEXTURE_SEND=0
ALLOW_TEXTURE_RECEIVE=0

[expat]

A lovely old plane......!

....(actually, I've cheated, and fitted a Bendix-King radio stack in my default DC-3. Now I don't get lost anymore!)... ... ...!

LOL...!

Paul... ...!

That

[Fozzer]

I've never tried Multiplayer myself but surely that would depend on whether you have those 3rd party aircraft installed yourself? The latest 3rd party models (created with Gmax for FS9) should display correctly including animations & all the bells & whistles.

There's a CFG tweak in earlier versions of FS/CFS where you can send & receive the visual model & textures of 3rd party aircraft between the other players. From what I was told this was a tad graphics intensive & could cause delays but that was before most people had powerful systems & broadband connections. For it to work correctly all players would obviously have to do the tweak.

These are the entries under [MULTIPLAYER] in fs9.cfg
Change all the values to 1 & try it.

ALLOW_PLANE_MODEL_SEND=0
ALLOW_PLANE_MODEL_RECEIVE=0
ALLOW_TEXTURE_SEND=0
ALLOW_TEXTURE_RECEIVE=0

Hi Doug...!

The problem? seems to be that Microsoft have designed the program to only correctly display the default aircraft in Multiplayer...!
If 3rd. party aircraft are used in Multiplayer, then every player must have the same aircraft installed for them all to appear in their correct form...!

It's the way Uncle Bill designed it....to only use HIS (AI?) default aircraft...LOL...!

Your FS9.cfg entry mods look interesting, but I suppose every player would have to carry out the mod for it to work....
...which is the same as everyone having to install the same 3rd. party aircraft...?

Cheers Doug...!

Paul.......!

P.S. There is definately something different in the design of the program between FS9 AI default aircraft and 3rd. party add-on aircraft when it comes to displaying them in Multiplayer...?
...strange...?

[Hagar]

Your FS9.cfg entry mods look interesting, but I suppose every player would have to carry out the mod for it to work....
...which is the same as everyone having to install the same 3rd. party aircraft...?

Everyone would have to do the tweak but it only needs doing once. A simple edit of that CFG file is a lot less bother than downloading & installing the other players' aircraft yourself. Surely it's worth a try. If it doesn't work or gives problems you can easily change it back.

I'm at the disadvantage of having no knowledge of Multiplayer so depend on reliable feedback. I've seen a lot of these things mentioned over the years but people never seem to try my suggestions or if they do they never give me any feedback.

PS.

P.S. There is definately something different in the design of the program between FS9 AI default aircraft and 3rd. party add-on aircraft when it comes to displaying them in Multiplayer...?
...strange...?

I think that would depend on the 3rd party aircraft. I know you like the older versions of some of these aircraft that weren't designed specifically for FS9. Aircraft created for FS9 according to the FS2004 SDK should work fine.

[Felix/FFDS]

....(actually, I've cheated, and fitted a Bendix-King radio stack in my default DC-3. Now I don't get lost anymore!)... ... ...!

LOL...!

Paul... ...!

Excluding your own back yard?