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Re: fs 2004 parking brakes

Postby Opa » Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:27 am

I have been watching the default Beechcraft setting with engines running and the parking brake on for the last 15 minutes - has not moved an inch.

I have only observed the "creep" on one or two aircraft I have downloaded over the past few years - most do not exhibit this behavoir - and never I have I seen it in any of the default aircraft.

So I feel safe in saying it is NOT a FS2004 issue as the OP would have us believe.
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Re: fs 2004 parking brakes

Postby gastoff » Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:51 am

strange if its happend on 6 differant pc's with all differant systems. all high end pc's with and with out of a joystick.

even with out a joystick its moves inches...
and beechcraft baron is the only planes i don't have any any problems with.... and the only payware plane i don't have this problem with is the 747-400 from pmdg...
i did try it with 100% of throttle and it still stay in the same spot. try that with a cessna or other planes... it just runs of like there is no brake....

like ms trainsimulator they release it too early not all the option are working good. because 1 issue MONEY!!!!

microsoft simulators are allways full of problems
and issues, its a not finished open platform.
so open that you can chance allmost everything while playing..

if anybody knows a simple program to make short movies of ms fs etc let me know i make a movie of it...
so you can see it you self. i am also going to show every every setting every ini file etc so you can see
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Re: fs 2004 parking brakes

Postby Fozzer » Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:17 am

Very strange!... :o...!

Are any one of the other 34,620+ Members having serious, unexplainable, "Brake" problems with their FS2004?

A definite answer required...;)...!

Paul...G-BPLF... 8-)...!
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Re: fs 2004 parking brakes

Postby Hagar » Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:19 am

Very strange!... :o...!

Are any one of the 34,620+ Members having serious, unexplainable, "Brake" problems with their FS2004?

A definite answer required...;)...!

Paul...G-BPLF... 8-)...!

Paul, he's talking about parking brakes holding at full throttle. I'm not sure many people have tried that.
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Re: fs 2004 parking brakes

Postby Fozzer » Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:23 am

Very strange!... :o...!

Are any one of the 34,620+ Members having serious, unexplainable, "Brake" problems with their FS2004?

A definite answer required...;)...!

Paul...G-BPLF... 8-)...!

Paul, he's talking about parking brakes holding at full throttle. I'm not sure many people have tried that.


...more efficient brake linings?

...anchor?

Paul.... ;)...!
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Re: fs 2004 parking brakes

Postby Opa » Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:26 am

Very strange!... :o...!

Are any one of the 34,620+ Members having serious, unexplainable, "Brake" problems with their FS2004?

A definite answer required...;)...!

Paul...G-BPLF... 8-)...!

Paul, he's talking about parking brakes holding at full throttle. I'm not sure many people have tried that.


I believe the OP said is throttle was at 0% - not full throttle.


To the OP - I run ver 9.1 but do not believe that is a factor as I do not remember any creep before I updated.
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Re: fs 2004 parking brakes

Postby gastoff » Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:49 am

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look a simple picture of it.........

well i am tired of discussing this item.

i know my self and i have many many good mods made for many many games.

i know 1 thing for sure i am not the problem!!!!
also my pc and joystick etc strange it happed only in fs 2004 old or new fs programs no and i repeat no problem with brakes or any thing of that kind.

i have almost every MS Flightsimulator.
i have more than 800 flying hours registrated with fs passengers.

i got 10 real hours on my belt in a real Flying simulator.
x-plane i have used , falcon 4.0. no f*@king problem with any of those.most of them i have played on this pc i use right now with the same joystick. i have installed ms fs 2004 many times to try fix this problem. still every time it happend. not only when on parking brakes with 100% of throttle.
like i said it also happend with out
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Re: fs 2004 parking brakes

Postby Sotiris » Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:32 pm

Hi gastoff,

Could you please tell me in detail in which way you solved that issue ?
As I confirm the problem exists just like you describe it in my FS9.
How did you manage to increase parking brake pressure exactly ?

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Re: fs 2004 parking brakes

Postby Capt.Propwash » Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:24 pm

he fixed the problem by increasing the TOE_BREAKS=###### //BREAK SCALAR in the affected aircraft.cfg file under the section of [Breaks]


(taken from the Cessna 172 in FS9)

[brakes]
parking_brake = 1        //Parking brake available
[glow=yellow,2,300]toe_brakes_scale = 0.68  //Brake scalar[/glow]  <~~~ Make this a higher number to stop moving forward when you have parking breaks / trigger breaks applied
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Re: fs 2004 parking brakes

Postby Sotiris » Sat Apr 16, 2011 6:11 am

roger Sir. Understood, checked, set and working fine.
Many thanks for your reply !
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Re: fs 2004 parking brakes

Postby Sotiris » Sat Apr 16, 2011 6:52 am

OK, it works in holding still the aircraft, but if that value is increased too much, the plane needs around a 60% N1 to move and brake apply stops the plane abruptly. Is there any value resulting to an acceptable plane behaviour ?
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Re: fs 2004 parking brakes

Postby rich1959 » Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:08 pm

HI
Has any one try it with the engine off? I read some where
that it may be A FD problem
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Re: fs 2004 parking brakes

Postby Sotiris » Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:31 am

I 've no idea Rich. Nor do I know how to fix it, if this is the case.
Anyhow the issue exists. I also know very well that it is completely unreal, at least regarding jet commercial airliners.
There is no point to give a try with engine off, as there is no problem with engines off. The issue appears with engines on and parking brake on.
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Re: fs 2004 parking brakes

Postby rich1959 » Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:13 am

  Remember  where I read about creping airplanes, Manfred Jahn, new Constellation
An email to Manfred might get some answers
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