How do you make a perfect visual landing?

[beaky]

I didn't thoroughly read all the responses so if this repeated, my appologies...

When you're lining up for landing, what are you focusing on? The end of the runway closest to you? You may find it easier to "see" your alignment if you focus on the far end of the runway.

Your eyes can better determine "alignment" under what your looking at rather then on top.

I was talking more about judging your glideslope rather than alignment, but no, if you focus only on either end, you will not do very well. The entire runway, initially, has to be considered... and the same rule applies to some extent: the two ends of the runway should not be moving laterally relative to each other. Approach end should be going down, departure end should be going up.
Just keep the two ends aligned vertically... it's that simple.

Again, it's a matter of practice, and there's no sure-fire trick to guarantee perfection. It's like trying to describe in words exactly how to juggle three balls, or something like that... can't really learn how to do that from someone else's description.

[olderndirt]

how do you make a perfect landing on a non ILS runway.

Actually still a work in progress but, from what I've read, there's a lot of info here to work with.

[BSW727]

It's like trying to describe in words exactly how to juggle three balls, or something like that...

Exactly. It's harder to describe something happening in three dimensions.

[Brett_Henderson]

And when you're learning to juggle..  start with three, lights, soft. easy-to-grip balls..  NOT  three, hard, heavy, slippery balls 

[Fozzer]

[quote]And when you're learning to juggle..

[JBaymore]

[quote]And when you're learning to juggle..

[Brett_Henderson]

[quote]Actually, working with the the 747 before having a LOT of experience is more like learning to juggle with a running chainsaw, a lumberjack's axe, and a samurai katana.

[snippyfsxer]

When I figured out that I could just take half my ground speed and add a zero to get my target rate of descent, something they don't even point out to the noobie in the fs9 training lessons...I was able to concentrate on good landings instead of just landing.

[BSW727]

They don't have to guess. It's all published in the POH.

And you can buy one too if you search long and diligently enough. Most casual simmers don't care about such things.

Some e-Bay stores sell these on discs and sometimes a hard copy from the aircraft comes around now and then. The hard copies aren't usually cheap, but they are invaluable for operating the aircraft correctly.

You can get away with jumping in a Cessna and flying it off with little trouble to check any figures, but you don't do that in a 70 ton aircraft. You had better know how much you weigh at any point in the flight for what speed you need for various configurations at those weights.

I see this question around the various sites. "How come my nose is pointing up at 15

[Nav]

krusbullen, I'd strongly suggest that you set up an ILS approach to a well-equipped airport, and then save it say 15 miles out, as soon as you're cleared to land.

Then use it for practice, phasing out the ILS (and 'speed hold' if fitted) earlier and earlier until you can do the whole thing manually. And, of course, you can substitute any other kind of aeroplane, or try out new types, using the same saved flight.

One basic 'pilots' principle' about landing that can't be mentioned often enough - 'power for height, pitch for speed.' Meaning that if the rate of descent is too fast, you should add a touch of power, not haul the nose up - and conversely that if the aeroplane is below a sensible landing speed, you should trim the nose down.

Landing speeds don't need to get too complicated (in FS anyway ). Once in full landing configuration (gear and flaps down) 90-100 knots for props and 140 knots for jets is usually about right. Rate of descent should normally be 500-600 feet per minute for any sort of aeroplane. You'll generally find that being at say 2,500 feet about 8 miles out gives you about the right sort of initial descent gradient, with plenty of time to get everything organised in good time.

Also see if these help? The first one deals with an ILS approach in a jet, the second with a manual crosswind approach in a prop.

http://205.252.250.26/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?board=COF;action=display;num=1111322151

http://205.252.250.26/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?board=COF;action=display;num=1129643666

[arran]

i'm only thirteen but I started to try setting up the ils and handflying that and then once i got used to that i moved to an airport without one say witham field [ksua] and laerned how to do it like that

[BSW727]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BOEING-737-OPERATIONS-MANUAL-3-VOLUMES-USED-SET_W0QQitemZ190352830656QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Aviation_Parts_Gear?hash=item2c51e9b0c0

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BOEING-737-FLIGHT-CREW-OPS-AVIATION-MANUAL-VOL-1-USED_W0QQitemZ160381625953QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Aviation_Parts_Gear?hash=item25577d6661

[Fozzer]

...as a last resort I generally close my eyes and think furiously of England... ....

....always works for me!... [smiley=thumbsup.gif]....!

Paul...G-BPLF...FS 2004 ...and a Wing and a Prayer... .. ... ...!

[gypsymoth]

You've been watching too much 007, Fozzer 

[krusbullen]

I have started to "handle" the aircraft more manually. When i rotate i have manually controll via my joystick to the aircraft is clean. Before i hitted the AP button almost instantly. I also disengage the AP long before my touch down and look more at the runway then the glidelsope dots on the screen. It has worked out but one time when i forgot the landing wheels . I have more feeling of how the aircraft handles. I usually flies the 747 - 400, 777, A340 or A380. Why start with a Cessna..