Help with turns

[robbyaube]

Hi,

I don't have a joystick so use my directional arrows on the keyboard to turn. I'm having a heck of a time straightening out after turning though. For the same reason I am finding it difficult to lign up for landings. I Can run through the landing and turning tutorials without issue... Does anyone have extra tips on turning techniques and approaches? Maybe im not going far enough from the runway to lign up with it??
Thanks,
Robby

[Fozzer]

Hi,

I don't have a joystick so use my directional arrows on the keyboard to turn. I'm having a heck of a time straightening out after turning though. For the same reason I am finding it difficult to lign up for landings. I Can run through the landing and turning tutorials without issue... Does anyone have extra tips on turning techniques and approaches? Maybe im not going far enough from the runway to lign up with it??
Thanks,
Robby

Your number one (vital) priority is the purchase of a (Flight) Joystick with a twist (Rudder), and Throttle function.

Without it, you will not achieve any success...trust me!.......!

Then load up the Cessna 172 Trainer Aircraft, and spend many hours, days, and weeks practicing your flying skills.... ....!

Try the "Lessons" within the flight Sim......!

Have fun...and learn!......!

Paul...G-BPLF...FS 2004... 8-)...!

[757200ba]

Well i need to agree with the last post.
Flying FS with keys wow.Its already difficult with joystick never mind with keys specially with wind condition.
Get a joystick and your problems are over. There are cheap ones, better than  tapping at speed of light on a crosswind landing. 8-)

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications ... rchbtn.y=0.

i don't know where are you from but take a look.
Cheers

[robbyaube]

Wow they aren't that expensive

On that tiger direct page, which ones would have the functions I need? Also how hard is it to configure the joystick once you get it?

[Fozzer]

...my favourite Baby!....>>>

http://www.saitek.com/uk/prod/evo.htm

Paul...G-BPLF...FS 2004... 8-)...!

[Nav]

robbieorbe, there are three basic types of joystick.

1. 'Two-axis' - forward for down, back for up, left or right to turn. Perfectly OK for starting out, and very cheap - FS2004 is organised to 'auto-control' the rudder input, so turns are OK; just lean the joystick left or right.

2. 'Rudder twist' - Twisting the stick operates the rudder. A nice thing once you've learned to 'fly' - but, in fact, even flying the real thing, you use the rudder sparingly, you mainly turn by banking.

3. 'Force-feedback' - a stick that provides both elevator and twist-rudder input, but ALSO provides 'feedback' feel - if you apply too much control movement too soon, it 'judders' etc.........

[Fozzer]

"Force Feedback"

On my joystick, (mentioned above), I leave all "Force Feedback" turned off....makes for a much smoother, and more realistic flight, I find (real life).

At one time, the only "Twist-type" Joysticks you could obtain, had Force Feedback designed-in, whether you wanted it, or not!

I find it an annoyance, especially on the ground..!

..in real life, it affects your "Bum", not your "Hands"... ...!

Paul..G-BPLF...FS 2004...with Bungee Rubber Suspension... ...!

[Capt.Propwash]

tip for flying by "key" ..... Dont just hold it down and then try to correct the plane by holding down the opposite key. TAP the directions that you want the plane to go in. (dont hold down right, then try to press LEFT to correct. you have to let go of right, then TAP left to get it to correct NICELY or you will over correct and you'll fight it all the way down.)


as for joysticks, if you are in the US. go to Walmart and buy the SAITEK ST290 PRO. its only $20.00 and is the PERFECT one for beginners.  Its a "twist" stick without ForceFeedback, which you dont really 'need' as a beginner {just my opinion}.

[robbyaube]

I got a joystick and it's awesome, makes all the difference in turns and up and downs. I didn't get one with the twist rudder function but it has the throttle lever so that's pretty good. It has 11 buttons to map so I think im going to be good with that. Only thing is the pitch control I need to map that to two buttons and haven't figured out which option it is, there are two that look to be the same, one is pitch up/down and the other is trim up/down....

The stick is a logitech Attack3 anyone use it and is it any good down the road?

Thanks,
Robby

[Nav]

Great, robbieaube, you're on your way!

The correct option is 'trim up/down' - that adjusts the trim of the aeroplane controls. 'Pitch up/down' is the key control you were trying to fly with!

Remember that, even without rudder twist, you can still apply rudder when taxiing, or to stay straight on takeoff, by moving the stick sideways.

[scalper_old]

I got a joystick and it's awesome, makes all the difference in turns and up and downs. I didn't get one with the twist rudder function but it has the throttle lever so that's pretty good. It has 11 buttons to map so I think im going to be good with that. Only thing is the pitch control I need to map that to two buttons and haven't figured out which option it is, there are two that look to be the same, one is pitch up/down and the other is trim up/down....

The stick is a logitech Attack3 anyone use it and is it any good down the road?

Thanks,
Robby

I got the attack 3 but 1 month later I got flight sim yok and pedals. you may find that you may want to tuen on auto rudder for the attack 3. but i soon realized that to land nicley still you would need some sort of rudder. Have Fun

[Zfly2sky]

Just food for thought.

[DenisH]

I'm new at FS and am using a Saitek joystick to fly the Mooney. It is definitely not easy to control this plane but I think using the stick will teach me more initially than a yoke. I can usually land this plane under most difficult settings 7 out of 10 times  The rudder function on the stick presents the most problems to this novice. Too stiff and too responsive. (Too quick to correct)  Do intend  to get a yoke and pedals shortly , as has been recommended by the more knowledgeable  fliers in here, and wonder if any recommendations as to the make? Saitek?  I note a yoke and rudder system goes for about $250 more or less and obviously can be more expensive with more bells & whistles.  DenisH

[Sean_TK]

I highly recommend the Saitek Pro Flight system. I have the yoke, one throttle quad, and the rudder pedals (along with a separate X-52 system).

Saitek products are the way to go.

[Fozzer]

[quote]I'm new at FS and am using a Saitek joystick to fly the Mooney. It is definitely not easy to control this plane but I think using the stick will teach me more initially than a yoke. I can usually land this plane under most difficult settings 7 out of 10 times