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Re: Problem with new scenery

Postby Hagar » Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:08 am

I downloaded Naha Int'l Airport from your link  to check it out but haven't installed it. I think you're all on the right track. I seem to recall that the FS2002 exclude BGL created with software like FS Scenery Creator does not work in FS9. I'm wondering if you need to delete it. The file name will be something like Excl_1.bgl. This probably won''t make the slightest difference.

Note the comment on the scenery download page.
Scenery that I have released on this homepage is for FS2002.[ch12288]When you use it with FS2004[ch12289]the crash is generated by an unexpected point[ch12289]and[ch12288]trouble occurs somewhat.

I don't have time to investigate this right now. It might be worth posting this in the Scenery Design section. A quick search on Google might turn up something. For example:
http://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64
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Re: Problem with new scenery

Postby commoner » Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:44 am

Well spotted Hagar....never saw that.....if you are referring in your link to the program DefArea, then it is excellent for removing those pylons. roads et. which can't be removed with a normal exclude bgl.....it's a bit like using your a/c as a rubber (eraser) and slew over the object. I have used it on a few trouble spots on occasion. Not sure how to use it in this case though, maybe do a sort of sweep of the area and hope to hit the spot.. :P :-/
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Re: Problem with new scenery

Postby Hagar » Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:52 am

Well spotted Hagar....never saw that.....if you are referring in your link to the program DefArea, then it is excellent for removing those pylons. roads et. which can't be removed with a normal exclude bgl

It's a long time since I messed around with scenery so I'm not familiar with the latest developments. I've never used tools like Excbuilder or DefArea. My memory is not what it was either. I'm not suggesting anything specific, just that a search on Google might turn something up.
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Re: Problem with new scenery

Postby Groundbound1 » Sun Aug 24, 2008 8:24 am

[quote]I downloaded Naha Int'l Airport from your link
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Re: Problem with new scenery

Postby akka » Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:42 pm

Hi Groundbound1

It's all right since we are not technical people. The runways and taxiways works on all the airports. You will only crash into invisible objects on the aprons/parking area may be 50m or so from the skyways also around the boundary.

In any case, may be somebody with better technical knowledge will be able to help.
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Re: Problem with new scenery

Postby typhoon reheat » Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:44 pm

hi akka by any chance have you had a notice bar pop up at the beggining of your fs9 game on your splash screen saying something like scenery file not found ect...

because if you have, read it and it should say where to look for that problem.

my guesses are it should be in your fs9 scenery.cfg file inside your main fs9 root.

maybe your scenery textures arent put in properly so check your scenery.cfg file and make sure everything is the same as the rest of it

i.e spaces, correct lines.  ;)
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Re: Problem with new scenery

Postby akka » Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:30 pm

Hi Typhoon

Thx for the tip but I have got no such problem when I launch fs9. I also check the scenery.cfg already but nothing seems to be out of order.

Well I guess we are back to the drawing board!!! ;D >:(
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Re: Problem with new scenery

Postby typhoon reheat » Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:00 am

ok if that aint the problem then i have one more idea. when you installed that scenery how did you install and were did you install it to?

you might of done this but im making sure.

when you install scenery it says inside the readme file to copy and paste the scenery folder in your zip folder to the addon scenery file.
then once you've done that then you run fs9 and go to settings and then click on add area when you got up your scenery addon, select the scenery you want to add then save.
come out of fs9 and load again for it to work.

try that if you havent done it but like i said you proberly have but im making sure.  ;)
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Re: Problem with new scenery

Postby Hagar » Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:14 am

The problem is that this scenery was intended for FS2002. The author is aware of the bug & doesn't know how to fix it. Check out the comment on his site.
Scenery that I have released on this homepage is for FS2002.[ch12288]When you use it with FS2004[ch12289]the crash is generated by an unexpected point[ch12289]and[ch12288]trouble occurs somewhat.

Groundbound1 wrote:
Naha was the scenery that I tried, and I did try removing Excl_1.bgl, thinking the same thing. Excl_1.bgl only removes the default scenery. (oddly enough, this part DOES work in FS9)

I remember now. It's the FSSC Flatten BGL that doesn't work in FS9.* Still no ideas on how to fix this.

*PS. Could this be the answer?
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Re: Problem with new scenery

Postby akka » Mon Aug 25, 2008 7:40 am

Hi Typhoon

Thx for the reminder but if you didn't do that the scenery would not show up in fs9 at all. I think Hager may have the problem but I don't know fs9's programming well enough to solve that even if Hager is right.

In any case, the author of the program do notice this as he had put this problem up in his website. I have written to him to see if he has any solutions. I hope he understands English well enough to get my message. U know Japanese. No offence intended. ;) ::)
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Re: Problem with new scenery

Postby typhoon reheat » Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:22 am

ok sorry to interupt.  ;)
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Re: Problem with new scenery

Postby CAFedm » Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:28 pm

One more idea - check the ground level of the scenery vs the ground level for the airport, to make sure both are a close match - might or might not help but worth a try - ground elevation between FS2002 & FS2004 (or FSX even) may be considerably different depending upon where you are flying from.
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Re: Problem with new scenery

Postby commoner » Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:09 am

Just done new Flatten.bgl but no difference...commoner...IMHO if the architect of this scenery can't sort it then I'd forget it or put up with it's little quirks...commoner ;)
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Re: Problem with new scenery

Postby akka » Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:55 am

I have put the problem with the more knowledgable people at the fsdeveloper forum. Hope these guys can come up with a solution. Thx for trying Commoner.

The original developer has not come back. Well may be he has problems in understanding what I have sent him in English. May be I should use Barbel fish to translate my message into Japanese but you guys know how good these translation programs are. Probably is just as good as the English message I sent him! Ha Ha ;D
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