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how do i Know wat runway is 34R??!??!?!

Postby lilpilotty » Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:17 pm

i know how to fly decently but the thing that i still dont get is when i use the gps to my dest. and when i reach there the guy tells me 34R how do i know ahead of time so i can make a flawless approach? how do i turn the 500 400 300 50 40 30 guy on?
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Re: how do i Know wat runway is 34R??!??!?!

Postby a1 » Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:22 pm

In real life I don't think pilots know a head of time. They offer you the runway because it is available. Approach can't tell you ahead of time because they don't know what type of traffic conditions might be there.


Set the approach function in the GPS to the runway you want and the type eof approach you want. Be sure you have the correct airport first.
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Re: how do i Know wat runway is 34R??!??!?!

Postby lilpilotty » Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:48 pm

but i know wat runway to land on at the last second so it almost impossile for me to adapt to the gps approach. how do i set it ahead of time??
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Re: how do i Know wat runway is 34R??!??!?!

Postby Sean_TK » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:03 pm

Listen to the ATIS or AWOS service that the airport provides. If the airport does not have an automated weather service, then simply reference the current wind conditions at altitude, or a nearby airport with a weather service. When done with that, you can load, but not activate, the approach you are expecting into the default Garmins.

Also, look at your approach plates for your destination and set up the proper nav freqs and course headings to do an ILS or LOC approach, since in the sim, the guidance seems to be more accurate on final, unless the airport ONLY is GPS capable...which would be strange, but possible.
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Re: how do i Know wat runway is 34R??!??!?!

Postby Brett_Henderson » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:07 pm

Listen to the ATIS or AWOS service that the airport provides. If the airport does not have an automated weather service, then simply reference the current wind conditions at altitude, or a nearby airport with a weather service. When done with that, you can load, but not activate, the approach you are expecting into the default Garmins.

Also, look at your approach plates for your destination and set up the proper nav freqs and course headings to do an ILS or LOC approach, since in the sim, the guidance seems to be more accurate on final, unless the airport ONLY is GPS capable...which would be strange, but possible.



This is good advice.
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Re: how do i Know wat runway is 34R??!??!?!

Postby lilpilotty » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:55 pm

kinda got it :)

im 20 min so ill see wat happens ::)
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Re: how do i Know wat runway is 34R??!??!?!

Postby born_2_fly » Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:49 am

In real life I don't think pilots know a head of time. They offer you the runway because it is available. Approach can't tell you ahead of time because they don't know what type of traffic conditions might be there.


Set the approach function in the GPS to the runway you want and the type eof approach you want. Be sure you have the correct airport first.


Pilots can't know 'strictly' speaking ahead of time, but looking at the METAR for any given area is a massive clue, if NOSIG is present, and its only a short flight, chances are the runway in use at the time of the METAR will still be in use when you arrive, messages like 160v360 tell you it could be anything.

Plus, ATC don't decide runways based on traffic conditions, its winds, it's one of the most fundamental rules of aviation, even in FS, I'm surprised you didn't know that  :-?
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Re: how do i Know wat runway is 34R??!??!?!

Postby microlight » Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:08 am

Agree with all this good advice. Use real-world weather, so you know which direction you're likely to be landing in, use ATIS and contact with airport tower to get the final runway.

My habit is not to use the built-in GPS (I often fly older planes such as 707 and 727 which have INS rather than GPS) but once within 30 miles or so, to confirm the runway and use local VORs to align - or use a parallel reverse track to the runway to make an interception with the localizer.

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Re: how do i Know wat runway is 34R??!??!?!

Postby Dendoe » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:07 am

I take a quick look at the map, enlarge the airport several times and the runway numbers  are clearly marked.
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Re: how do i Know wat runway is 34R??!??!?!

Postby lilpilotty » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:47 am

my flight went wrong , i flew the 737 exper. and the atc was approaching to the proper runway like 60 miles out and after steps of following he asked me if the runway was in site. but i didnt see it so i kept passing it and i didnt know wat i did wrong.
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Re: how do i Know wat runway is 34R??!??!?!

Postby Sean_TK » Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:43 am

Well...if you didn't see it, then choose the option that says that you do not see the runway, and the FS ATC should have you execute a missed approach and bring you around again for a second try. You could also try asking for a specific type of approach rather than the visual if you wish.
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Re: how do i Know wat runway is 34R??!??!?!

Postby lilpilotty » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:57 pm

lol yea i did that the first time and went around but then came back and passed the airport again
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Re: How do I know what runway is 34R??!??!?!

Postby Fozzer » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:08 pm

lol yea i did that the first time and went around but then came back and passed the airport again


No problem... ;)....

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Re: how do i Know wat runway is 34R??!??!?!

Postby TSC. » Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:31 pm

LOL Fozz - one of the unbreakable rules that makes flying so safe......... we've never left anybody up there.

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Re: how do i Know wat runway is 34R??!??!?!

Postby 757200ba » Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:44 pm

APPROACH PLATES< AND AIRPORT DIAGRAMS AND AIRPORT FACILITY DIRECTORY.
FLIGHT PLAN
ATC
ATIS
8-) ;)

If it is RNWY 34r, well your app is going to be from South East.
Only the first 400 are confusing the otheres are easy.
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