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Re: Wierd ACT?

Postby vololiberista » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:20 pm

If ever you fly to Fiumicino LIRF you must always refuse the ATC initial rwy vectors and request the approach, vector and rwy you wish to land on. Otherwise ATC will vector you in the completely opposite direction to the airport  and you will never actually get to land!!

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Re: Wierd ACT?

Postby Ashar » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:13 pm

If ever you fly to Fiumicino LIRF you must always refuse the ATC initial rwy vectors and request the approach, vector and rwy you wish to land on. Otherwise ATC will vector you in the completely opposite direction to the airport  and you will never actually get to land!!

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That doesn't happen to me...And believe me, I've flown in and out of Fiumicino for quite some time now :-? :-?
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Re: Wierd ACT?

Postby FlightSimKid » Mon Dec 03, 2007 4:23 pm

LOL After installing World of Ai Traffic, i was really impressed...i was in my little Cessna from Birmingham - Heathrow on landing i requested on a different runway to land because well i dont want to be the victim of landing at 75knots with a 747 or 777 landing right behind me at 160+knots pounding right towards me ;D. I ended up landing on the departure runway :-?. But on landing i noticed a plane departing at the other end... at first i thought it was only a little Cessna..but as it came towards me i see it was about 10times the size of me with 4engines  :o i could either increase throttle and try and take off without hitting the jet or swerve of to the grass..just imagine what i was thinking  :D
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Re: Wierd ACT?

Postby wolfipilot » Tue Dec 04, 2007 3:30 am

[quote]LOL After installing World of Ai Traffic, i was really impressed...i was in my little Cessna from Birmingham - Heathrow on landing i requested on a different runway to land because well i dont want to be the victim of landing at 75knots with a 747 or 777 landing right behind me at 160+knots pounding right towards me ;D. I ended up landing on the departure runway :-?. But on landing i noticed a plane departing at the other end... at first i thought it was only a little Cessna..but as it came towards me i see it was about 10times the size of me with 4engines
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Re: Wierd ACT?

Postby 767simmer » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:52 pm

Yes, FS9 ATC is very simple but you can use it towards your advantage to build good habits; for example:

1) When taxing, always monitor tower on the NAV2 and keep notice of any airplane landing. Ground once cleared me to back taxi to the active rwy but I held short because I heard tower cleared an airplane to land on the same rwy.

2) Always maintain your "Spatial Awareness". When flying fast jets, FS9 ATC will sometimes vector you to intercept an ILS localizer too far from the airport (>30nm) and by the time you get the localizer signal, you had already intercepted it.  This is where the GPS/FMS comes in handy.  If there is no GPS in real life, then you use NAV2 and/or ADF (NDB or LOM) for awareness.

3) Always use SID/STARs and IAP's for obstacles clearance and MSA (Minimum Save Altitudes, usually 25nm within the NavAid listed). During Radar Vectors to approach, verified the altitudes you are cleared to are not below the MSA for the area your in, if they are, fly the published MSA and let ATC tell you time and time again to expedite your decent. This is especially true for areas outside USA and/or around mountains. FS9 world is very accurate to the real world, so real world SID/STARs and IAP plates will keep away from mountains/obstacles. One example is ILS 13L approach for JFK where ATC clears you down to 1500feet to intercept the localizer and you end up flying real close to the Empire State Building when established on the localizer; the real life IAP altitude is 1800feet.

In real life, these are all good habits of airmanship and if you are ever in a situation as these, you will question ATC and ask for verification.  You can't question FS9 ATC, but you can ignore clearances you feel are not safe.

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Re: Wierd ACT?

Postby Mazza » Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:00 pm

OMG this was so weird.
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I was on approach from melbourne Victoria, i hear the ATC clear me for landing #1, then i switch to the outside and looked around the i saw a 747 right behide me, so i was thinking the ACT controller on drugs then he says go around... that was a weird day indeed ;D :D  
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Re: Wierd ACT?

Postby gypsymoth » Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:34 pm

Mmmmm - I agree with Fozzer except I'd be in Dave Maltby's 1-11 or my PC-21.   Bournemouth ATC has recently started telling me to Go Around as I'm about to touch down.   I yell Bog-off & they now don't now tell me off for an unauthorised landing - well that's on the odd occasion I now use them ::)
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