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Clouds in the ground

Postby ThomasKaira » Wed Aug 08, 2007 3:11 am

OK, this is getting on my nerves:

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Why do they do this? Why do the clouds clip into the ground when the ground is this high up? This is where I live, and I can surely tell you that THIS does NOT happen at all in New Mexico.

Why do they do this?! >:( >:( >:(
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Re: Clouds in the ground

Postby Fozzer » Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:57 am

Why are you so high up in the sky, above the clouds?

Load up a Cessna 172, on an airfield, at an altitude of 50 Feet ASL.

Set up your weather, including the cloud type, and altitude details, and observe the height of the base on the clouds..!

Using these bleedin' Commercial jets, most of the time, the clouds are below you, and under foggy/misty conditions can actually appear to be at ground level, when observed from above...!

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Re: Clouds in the ground

Postby dave3cu » Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:47 am

That's the nature of how weather components are defined. Clouds, wind, temp./pressure and visibility are each defined in altitude 'layers' measured from sea level (MSL).
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Re: Clouds in the ground

Postby vololiberista » Wed Aug 08, 2007 3:22 pm

The clouds in your pic are quite some distance away and the 3D affect on the computer simply doesn't equate to reality.
The clouds in your pic are cb's. They have a flat base due to the convection currentsbnot because they are lying on the surface of the ground.
Put it down to your video card and the sim not able to give a true 3D effect in the distance when looking down onto the ground.
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Re: Clouds in the ground

Postby ThomasKaira » Wed Aug 08, 2007 3:23 pm

Why are you so high up in the sky, above the clouds?

Load up a Cessna 172, on an airfield, at an altitude of 50 Feet ASL.

Set up your weather, including the cloud type, and altitude details, and observe the height of the base on the clouds..!

Using these bleedin' Commercial jets, most of the time, the clouds are below you, and under foggy/misty conditions can actually appear to be at ground level, when observed from above...!

Paul...Low and Slow... ;)...!


What? What is the meaning of this "low and slow" beeswax?
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Re: Clouds in the ground

Postby Fozzer » Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:52 pm

Why are you so high up in the sky, above the clouds?

Load up a Cessna 172, on an airfield, at an altitude of 50 Feet ASL.

Set up your weather, including the cloud type, and altitude details, and observe the height of the base on the clouds..!

Using these bleedin' Commercial jets, most of the time, the clouds are below you, and under foggy/misty conditions can actually appear to be at ground level, when observed from above...!

Paul...Low and Slow... ;)...!


What? What is the meaning of this "low and slow" beeswax?  :P Nothing's more satisfying then screaming down the runway at 120 knots with screaming engines, the terrain merely a blur to your eyes, the wheels screaming with speed... and flying into the clouds at 3000fpm. And then there's the landings. I'm sorry, but the C172 is a little too easy for me. ::)

Ehh... what am I saying.


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Re: Clouds in the ground

Postby ThomasKaira » Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:05 pm

Why are you so high up in the sky, above the clouds?

Load up a Cessna 172, on an airfield, at an altitude of 50 Feet ASL.

Set up your weather, including the cloud type, and altitude details, and observe the height of the base on the clouds..!

Using these bleedin' Commercial jets, most of the time, the clouds are below you, and under foggy/misty conditions can actually appear to be at ground level, when observed from above...!

Paul...Low and Slow... ;)...!


What? What is the meaning of this "low and slow" beeswax?
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Re: Clouds in the ground

Postby beaky » Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:07 pm

The clouds in your pic are quite some distance away and the 3D affect on the computer simply doesn't equate to reality.
The clouds in your pic are cb's. They have a flat base due to the convection currentsbnot because they are lying on the surface of the ground.
Put it down to your video card and the sim not able to give a true 3D effect in the distance when looking down onto the ground.
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I have often seen clouds on the ground in FS9-and not due to the effect mentioned-  it has to do with either global default weather settings, or not setting the online-referenced weather to update. It's possible the online engine will still mess up like this if there is no station report for the area, but that's very rare.

But it's possible that in that screenie, at least, volo is right... it's hard to tell.

And... although I know about NM, there are some places- usually with high, pointy terrain, where clouds do indeed touch the ground.
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Re: Clouds in the ground

Postby ThomasKaira » Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:12 pm

The clouds in your pic are quite some distance away and the 3D affect on the computer simply doesn't equate to reality.
The clouds in your pic are cb's. They have a flat base due to the convection currentsbnot because they are lying on the surface of the ground.
Put it down to your video card and the sim not able to give a true 3D effect in the distance when looking down onto the ground.
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I have often seen clouds on the ground in FS9-and not due to the effect mentioned-
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Re: Clouds in the ground

Postby beaky » Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:20 pm

[I'm sorry, but the C172 is a little too easy for me. ::)



Maybe you two gentlemen would like to step outside...  :D

Sounds like a spot-landing contest in the 172 is in order here; let's say, engine-out from midfield downwind, with a 15-knot direct crosswind, and wind shear on final...
  :o ;) :D

My money's on Foz! :D

Just having fun, although I can't vouch for ol' Fozzer. ::)
 But do understand that for us miserable bug-smasher drivers who've actually been turned loose in someone else's airplane to fly even a few hundred feet above the earth (and maybe less below the clouds), there is nothing more satisfying than having achieved that and making a wobbly approach and landing without wrecking an airplane; nothing... even if it is boring compared to punching holes in the sky in jets (which I love doing in FS9, BTW).   ;D
We're just dismayed by all the youngsters who skip right over that stuff once they get the hang of it, never savoring- or perfecting- that kind of flight. :(
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Re: Clouds in the ground

Postby ThomasKaira » Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:47 pm

[I'm sorry, but the C172 is a little too easy for me. ::)



Maybe you two gentlemen would like to step outside...
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Re: Clouds in the ground

Postby JBaymore » Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:18 pm

Maybe you two gentlemen would like to step outside...



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Re: Clouds in the ground

Postby ThomasKaira » Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:24 pm

Maybe you two gentlemen would like to step outside...



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