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Emergency Landings...

Postby tsunami_KNUW » Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:07 pm

Anyone else have to make an emergency landing? I have once before because I ran too low on fuel, but things got messed up on this last flight I just performed.

Currently I'm doing a RTW in the default Mooney Bravo and on this leg of the journey, I flew from Sydney (YSBK) to Hobart (YMHB). About 83nm NNE of Hobart I entered severe wind and turbulence (I was using real-world weather) and suddenly the plane took a steep dive and it became very difficult to turn left. I nearly crashed into mountains. Fortunately, an airport was nearby so I made the landing in St. Helens, Tasmania. But I did manage to take-off a little while later and made it to my destination.
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Re: Emergency Landings...

Postby MattNW » Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:17 pm

I've come up shorter on fuel than I planned a couple times and had to look up a nearby airfield. I also had to land my Flight One ATR with one engine out because I got the sim focused on just one engine and couldn't get it back on both.

Closest thing to a real emergency landing however was after a friend's kids were playing with the sim. When they left I took a flight in the default Baron and thirty minutes into the flight one engine went out. Not long after that the other quit and I was flying a glider. Nothing I did got them to restart and I landed on the bank of a river. The kids had set my engines to fail as a joke.  Now that was "as real as it gets".  Amazing how nervous you get when both engines fail unexpectedly even when you know it's only a sim. ;D
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Re: Emergency Landings...

Postby bschott » Tue Aug 30, 2005 4:53 am

Try using the payware LVL-D 767, or PMDG's 737NG aircrafts... that can be fun as all heck when you have problems.  If you run the engines in the red too long they have failures.

FS Passangers also gives you a run for your money in the 'as real as it gets' emergencies.

Personally, I prefer to fly online, on VATSIM.  There is no Offline emergency comparison. You have real people working ATC, other real pilots flying, and then you have an emergency.

The 'pucker-factor' goes really high when you are landing at a busy field and trying to set her down without crashing  in front of 20+ people.  There is no reset button for the online stuff, which makes it all the more satisfying when you land it.
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Re: Emergency Landings...

Postby Souichiro » Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:59 am

Am an Expert on Spitfire Gliding ;D RAS spit ;D

Occasionally I turn a few engines off..
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Re: Emergency Landings...

Postby Staiduk » Tue Aug 30, 2005 8:16 am

Recipe for disaster:

Flying ultra-long distance (like around the world) with failures set to 'on' makes for an interesting experience; because the random failure time maxes out at 600 minutes!

In my first pole-pole flight; I endured a couple p/s failures; a hydraulics failure; lost one engine over Florida and lost my radio once.

In sim flight; emergencies can really wake you up!

(They do in real life as well of course; but in the sim you don't leave brown smears on the seat. ;D )

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Re: Emergency Landings...

Postby ashaman » Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:44 pm

The one memorable time I almost ran out of fuel was with a Bae146 at the airport of Bangkok. It was night, the visibility was nil (the deepest, densest fog I ever encountered on FS) and I was unable to do anything but descend on the ILS with a panel with no autoland down to a hard landing with no flare on gas fumes. I had so little fuel remained in fact that the engines went out while I was taxiing to the gate. ;D

As for an emergency I'm one of the few people that had a real one, the reasons for which are still unresolved. I was in a MD83 (freeware), in Alitalia livery, the flight was a LIML-LICR. I had recently deleted the old panel for this plane and in the meantime I found a better one decided to use the default 737's (yes, I know, I know, at today I'm still ashamed of myself, but I really wanted to fly that evening ;)) just for that flight.

Note that I never used the programmed failures of FS, EVER. I always found that part of FS a shameful waste of programming code that if the people in M$ can't get themselves to better would be best removed altogether. >:(

The emergency happened over Rome, almost on the vertical of LIRA af FL330, while I was re-reading for the n-nth time the charts with the landing procedure for LICR, suddenly and for reason never to be explained I had a double engine flameout.

I was so surprised that for 5 seconds I did nothing but stare, mouth agape. :o

The first order of things was, of course, to restart the engines... and I tried... unsuccessfully. So I disconnected both autopilot and throttle and annulled the flight plan (at the time I still used the default ATC, even if partially. I took off, made the SID, then opened the IFR, followed it almost ot the end, annulled the IFR a little before the start of the STAR and landed on my own) I began an as-shallow-as-I-could-get-it spiral descent toward LIRA, where I would have to land with no flaps nor gear (that with both engines off don't work), trying at the same time desperately to get the engines running (even the CTRL-E manouvre didn't work, and I was using it desperately) and to understand what the heck was happening.

My repeated tries were rewarded with engine 2 (the one on the right) spoolig up to power (the number 1 had a little before once again refused to start) at about FL200.

So I found myself in the position to continue a difficult descent to LIRA (from my position, it was) or to direct to LIRF, that with its larger and longer runways is a lot better to land in with one engine out. I went for LIRF. And there I landed on the 34L, undisturbed, luckily, by any AI plane. Exited from the runway and made my way toward the Alitalia gates (I know their locatiin by heart, no need to contact the ATC ;)).

Then while I was taxiing and just out of spite, I hit again CTRL-E, to see what would happen... and this time engine 1 spooled up normally.

I was so mortified and po-ed, I never completed the taxiing, just closed brutally the simulator and went for a cold beer. ;D

Even nowaday I still from time to time wonder what the hell happened to the simulator that evening to get me to live that unique simulated experience. :)
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Re: Emergency Landings...

Postby Souichiro » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:07 pm

Hnac A-300 series is freeware and simulates engine failures....Landing an A300 is quite difficult stuff actually..
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Re: Emergency Landings...

Postby Pc-Shark » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:23 pm

I too, have come up short on fuel and had to find a near airport to land at, but I wouldn't call it an emegency landing, just a unexpected landing. I have before had to land a Boeing 747-400 with Engine 2 & 3 dead but I did not make a emergency landing anywhere, I just finished the last 200nm of my flight & landed safely @ PHNL, but a 747 is completly capable of flying with only 2 engines as long as there is one good engine on each wing
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Re: Emergency Landings...

Postby farmerdave » Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:22 pm

The only failure I've ever had in my relatively short virtual flying career was a dud fuel gauge.  I was flying a King Air from Thunder Bay, Canada to Toledo and the fuel gauge dropped to zero over northern Michigan.  I thought I had ran out of fuel and immediately landed at capital city.
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Re: Emergency Landings...

Postby Pc-Shark » Tue Aug 30, 2005 9:40 pm

"Random Engine Failures" I think that this setting is just a unrealistic as u can get because then you expect something to fail every so often. It would be more realistic if fs would have just built this feature into fs, with out a switch to turn it on & off, where failure's would happen more realisticly.
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