Heavy Settings

[Fly2e]

I was wondering,
What are the best settings to make your aircraft feel a bit sluggish or "heavy"?
I have been playing with the "Realism" settings, you know, "Null" and sensitivity, but still can't figure out what each adjustnment is actually doing.  ::)

Can anybody tell me what exactly the three settings do?

Thanks,

Dave

[Saitek]

Well, I'd be interested to know the answer to that myself.

[Fly2e]

If somebody could explain what EXACTLY these three settings do, that would be great.  ;D
Thanks,

Dave

[ozzy72]

Well get all the realisms all the way up, then set the null zones for the joystick to about 30%, it means that the plane will respond slower, and I think more realistically
Of course on the Spit you have no null zones and then try to fly the wings off

[Sytse]

Well, here's the answer!  :D

Realism: it  basically determines how real your flight is. If you want 'heavy settings' you'd better go for the 'realest'

Null (zone?): it determines how far you have to push your stick from the center in order to make it work. Narrow nullzones will make the airplane move if a musquito lands on your stick. Wide nullzones would have made sure the Pope (the one that just died) could fly in a straight line, but it also causes your plane to react a bit slower then you're used to. So, for heavy settings I'd go for wide nullzones (not too wide though)

Sensetivity: Basically: the higher the sensitivty, the more reactive is your plane. So for heavy settings, decrease sensitivity.

Good luck!

[Fly2e]

Thanks.

Actually, being at work I realized the only one I was unsure of was the null zone.

That about clears things up!

Thanks

[Sytse]

No problem, you're welcome.

[legoalex2000]

think realistic. what makes a plane heavier and slower

WEIGHT.

throw up some weight settings, that is if your aircraft is empty or half full. if you know how to change .cfg's go for it, and please tell me how.

Ramos

(PS: fly2e, i'd never thought youd be on the quentionee side of the forum, for once, lol)

[RHeite]

Sensitivity will adjust how sensitive the axis is to your movement, if it takes alot to move, or a little to move...the null zone plays directly into this.

The null zone is how much movement is ignored before it is registered. If you have a high null zone, than it will require more movement before it begins to register.

Simple Terms:

High Sensitivity and Low Null = Very sensitvie controls, perfect for helos and stunt acft.

Low Sensitivity and High Null = Might just be what your looking for.

(EDIT) = The hazards of trying to write at work...some Gen stops by and you have to wait 30 min to his post... hope this adds to it some.

[Fly2e]

(PS: fly2e, i'd never thought youd be on the quentionee side of the forum, for once, lol)

Hey, being a Mod does not mean you know everything about the Sim

[RollerBall]

Nahh

What you need to adjust is the MOI numbers in the cfg file. Forget all that rubbish about null zones. NO aircraft in real life has null zones in its controls. It would have its CoA revoked.

If you want a heavier and less skittish aircraft in pitch, increase the empty_weight_pitch_MOI. I've just been doing it with Ole Egholm's Cherokee 140. First adjustment was to increase the figure from 975 to 1475 and it's already much more like the real 140s I've flown.

But if you take a real heavy, the numbers are completely different. Take the AN22 for example. There you have a pitch MOI of 15352310. Get the idea?

You can play the same game with roll MOI.

But be careful with yaw MOI. That has a completely different effect. If you make the number too big it doesn't seem to do too much in the air, but it increases your turning circle on the ground by a silly amount. It's an important one when you're playing with AI planes because it affects how they manoeuvre on the ground.

Lots of people have asked for a tute on playing with FDEs but there's just too much to it. You learn by feel and doing it. But the MOI adjustments you make are pretty important ones and have a big effect on how a plane 'feels' and handles.

[RHeite]

Excellent information...I'm going to have do some editing tonight I think...

[Fly2e]

Thanks for the answers!!

[beaky]

Can't you also go into the Fuel and Payload section of the Aircraft Realism page and add a bunch of weight? Never tried that, so I don't know if it would have much effect on control "feel".

[JBaymore]

Rollerball,

As usual........ a supurbly informational and useful post full of info.  Thanks!

best,

..................john