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Re: aircraft handling

Postby Calb » Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:16 pm

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Got the Panther. This is a difficult aircraft to land without bouncing. I can easily appreciate the problem you are having. Approach and touchdown speeds are critical. After several attempts, I found 150 kts approach speed and cut throttle over the end of the rwy worked best. It's important to be able to keep it just above the runway until the stall horn sounds. If you touch down too soon, especially with very much vertical velocity (because you're too high), you WILL bounce. In other words, you can't plop it on the runway without a bounce or two.

One thing I noticed -- this aircraft does not bleed off speed as quickly as I think it should when throttle is cut. Another thing, it is equipped with some massive speed brakes but I don't know if it was standard practise to deploy these during approach and landing. I didn't try it but I did deploy them at one point to slow down and they were VERY effective. You'd have to research that.

I don't know if much can be done to the .air and .cfg files -- I haven't done much with fixed-wing. I'm sure there's someone out that can help.

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Re: aircraft handling

Postby town » Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:21 am

Calb,

I wonder if it is a little tetchy because it is a 2002 aircraft. If so maybe we can implore the builder (Daisuke Yamamoto) to tweak it a little for 2004 cos it is such a nice looking thing.
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Re: aircraft handling

Postby Calb » Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:23 am

I've since tried landing with the speed brakes deployed. No affect. It seems like the brake is effective until you drop below 175 kts (or so). I tried upping the weight - didn't help.

A thought occurs to me -- how about substituting COPIES of the default Bombardier Lear 45 .cfg & .air files. You'd have to rename the .air file. It seems to have good characteristics and is similar in size and speed to the Panther.

I'd suggest you rename or move the existing Panther files first.

EDIT:: I just realizedsomething. If you substitute, you'll have to adjust the gear heights in the contact points section of the .cfg file.

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Re: aircraft handling

Postby town » Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:57 am

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I've tried substituting the air file from a Lockheed Shooting star but it is slightly down on thrust so I am looking for something that more closely matches the Panther. The problem seems to be getting the weight to thrust balance right - if you know where we can get a Saab Tunnan (this is the closest  matching aircraft I can find in my statistics info) we could substitute that AIR file

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Re: aircraft handling

Postby t_alexander21 » Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:20 am

My PSS A330 has real touchy ground handling charectestics even after I downloaded the updated FDE's. Is there a way to change that in the .cfg folder? If it is possible what values would I change and by how much?
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Re: aircraft handling

Postby t_alexander21 » Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:23 am

characteristics* for all the spellers out there :P
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Re: aircraft handling

Postby town » Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:05 pm

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You could try what we are doing and substitute an entire air. file and cfg file from another downloaded aircraft similar to the one you are having problems with, but make a backup of the original files just in case. ;)
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