Help with the Beechcraft Baron

[Pegase]

Which is a gorgeous plane but like a young wild horse

I can't find the right compensation to keep a given altitude speed. this is a problem while using the GPS, I find myself diving or climbing 500 ft out of my wished altitude in seconds.

Strangely, i have it easier to put in a given descent or climb and easy to land.

But holding a given altitude... No way  ???

Could it be a secondary effect of the force feedback joystick ?

I can't either move the admission command in full range using the joystick and, above 3500 ft must use the F3 key to keep the famous 25" pressure.

Did someone get the same trouble and found some solution ?

[wji]

Sound like joystick problems to me. Our B58 is quite docile indeed (did i say boring?) The default engine sound is so whimpy we changed ours to the B350 sounds.

Bill
P.s. my buddy used to own a B58 and it sounded much tougher than the FS9 modelling
p.p.s. engaging the autopilot will set the trim correctly allowing easier hand-flying after it's disengaged

[garymbuska]

The Baron indeed is a tricky little air craft a noisy joystick can cause havoc with it. About all you can do is to try to turn down your senitiveity levels this should help. You can also edit the flight tunning as well. It takes a little use to getting the feel of this craft you have to handle it like a deleciate vase. Light on the wheel the trick is speed along with trim. Find the right combo and your ok but speed up or slow down and you will have to retrim.

[RollerBall]

If your joystick is OK and you're finding the Baron tricky you need to spend more time on light singles. The fs9 Baron is a piece of cake like Bill says.

But like any aircraft you have to understand about trimming an aircraft for it's attitude at any time. In real life one of the simplest things to do (when you've been taught) and one of the most important. Trimming makes the controls work with you, not against. Real planes can be trimmed to fly more or less hands off (as my old instructor used to say - your girlfriend PAT - power, attitude, trim is the order you do it). Unfortunately FS is not X-Plane and trimming is not as effective for most models (but not all because some designers take more care than others). However, you have to do it ther wise you'll never get proper control of any aircraft.

[Gary R.]

I remember in FS2002 it didn't take me long to buy the C421 Golden Eagle because I found the Baron such a bore.  I know a few planes that "hands off" trim.  The Iron Knuckles DC-9 will trim out that way for one.  That plane is a winner for sure. She tracks down a glide slope with idle throttles if you nail the flaps by the book. Just like a real '9.

[Brett_Henderson]

I've found the Baron's pitch WAY more sensitive than realistic. The only real twin I've ever flown is a C-310. Our club has one. The FS9 C-172 is pretty darn close to right on.. far as sims go.. But the Baron is way off.

I just cheated and went to the flight-tuning paragraph in the aircraft.cfg and decreased the elevator effectiveness till it fealt right (went ahead and turbo-charged it too.. and re-worked the manifold-pressure gauge and tach to mach the new power and RPM range). I tried to match the performance figures I found for a real-world, turbo Baron.

Now it's my favorite sim-plane..

[FS_Pilot]

there is one Guaranteed way of holding heading and altitude. it is called AUTOPILOT.

[Pegase]

Thanks all of you !

Indeed, as FS_Pilot says, the autopilot is great and as Gary R., there are load of more exiting planes to fly (like simply the built in DC 3)

but the professional pilot checkride choosed the Baron and don't like the autopilot...  :( And it's quite frustrating to fail because she "jumped" 100 ft while I was busy with the GPS...

Slowly, I get used to her (or she get used to me...?).  Trimming properly changes all. But  not that easy to find the right  tuning while keeping the altitude, heading or turn rate, adjusting rpm, admission pressure, GPS  etc...

Anyway,  I will try the changes in cfg suggested by Brett_Henderson, It should help

Thanks again

Pierre

[FS_Pilot]

C'mon Brett are you going to share your baron mod with the rest of us? How about posting it in the download section of this website

[Brett_Henderson]

I sure will !.. Since FS9 allows for gauges in the individual panel folders of each plane.. it didn't bother me to open up that huge Baron gauge cab file.. rework a couple bit maps and save the new cab file ONLY in the Baron's panel folder. All it really is.. is different red-lines for MP gauges (and a "Turbo" logo on the fuselage and panel

[Gary R.]

FSD had made a freeware airfile refinement to both the baron and the king air under FS 2002.

[Brett_Henderson]

It's in the FS2004 Props now... But I didn't alias the sound (to save space) and it was edited to do so.. However.. the sound.cfg file was modified to alias the Baron panel     I emailed Pete.. so if you've already d-loaded it.. just change the sound.cfg file line to:

[fltsim]
alias=beech_baron_58\sound

instead of:

[fltsim]
alias=beech_baron_58\panel