Cross Country Flight

[FLYING_TRUCKER]

How does one plan a cross country flight, I have tried by entering the Departure Airport and the Destination Airport.  When I went to edit I had nothing but problems with trying to move that red line around.

I want to fly from point A to B to C to D and back to A.

At one time you could double click on the map and type in "Go to ---------" but that does not seem to work for me.

Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

[Nav]

Short answer is, I don't think you can, Trucker!

I expect that you can solve the problem, though, by planning your round trip to terminate at another airport.  Then, once you're in the air (maybe at the first waypoint?) call up the flight planner (click on 'Flights) and put in a new plan, changing the 'origin' and making your home airport the destination.

When you click to save the new plan it will ask you  whether you want to move the aeroplane to the origin airport.  Answer 'No' to that and you should find yourself still airborne, flying on your revised plan.

[gabel]

Hi Trucker.
I had this problem also untill I discovered some GREAT navigators addons.
I personallly recommend FSnavigator,you can plan there your custom plan with waypoints,altitudes,speeds,SID and STARS.

[FLYING_TRUCKER]

Thanks guys I will certainly try that.

It is a hell of a lot easier in the real thing than this desk top contraption .

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

[Iroquois]

I was doing a cross country flight in a Vickers Vimy but I never finished it. I think the flightplan is still up on my long dead website if you want ideas for an across Canada trip.

Edit: Here's a good cross Canada one.
Leg 1: Toronto Island Aiport to Perry Sound Municiple *
Leg 2: Perry Sound to Sudbury *
Leg 3: Sudbury to Sault St Marie
Leg 4: Sault St Marie to Thunder Bay
Leg 5: Thunder Bay to Kenora
Leg 6: Kenora to Winnipeg
Leg 7: Winnipeg to Brandon
Leg 8: Brandon to Regina
Leg 9: Regina to Moose Jaw *
Leg 10: Moose Jaw to Medicine Hat
Leg 11: Medicine Hat to Calgary
Leg 12: Calgary to Vernon
Leg 13: Vernon to Vancouver
Leg 14: Vancouver to Victoria *
Leg 15: From Victoria, turn north to White Horse. Refuling stops en route.
Leg 16: White Horse to Yellow Knife. Refuling stops en route.
Leg 17: Yellow Knife to Iqaluit. May require inflight refuling.
Leg 18: Iqaluit to Quebec City with refuling stops en route.
Leg 19: Quebec City to Montreal *
Leg 20: Montreal to Ottawa *
Leg 21: Ottawa to Fredricton
Leg 22: Fredricton to Halifax
Leg 23: Halifax to Sydney *
Leg 24: Sydney to St Johns
Leg 25: St Johns to Cornor Brook
Leg 26: Last leg! Cornor Brook to Goose Bay, Labrador

[FLYING_TRUCKER]

Thanks Iroquois
I am going to download FSNavigator and see if that works.
Cross Country Navigation is an important step to learning to fly, after all most aircraft do not have air to air refueling capability.

To many pilots fly from VOR TO VOR or use the GPS, that is fine until the hydro goes off, map reading is very important and that is what I am trying to do on the sim, just the way I do it in the actual aircraft.

The proper way to navigate a cross country trip is to use all the tools available which includes GPS, VORs, ADFs and maps. Hell if I could find an old Airforce Navigator that liked to drink good scotch there would be two chairs on wheels at this desk LOL

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

[Nav]

FS2004 is ahead of you, Trucker.

If you like it to be like 'old times', try flying the Dakota in the 'Frontier Airlines' scenario in 'Historical Flights'.

You have an old-fashioned autopilot which will hold a heading for you (more or less!) but not a course - you have to make your own allowance for drift.

The flying directions for the seven flights (it's best to print them off) say things like, "Follow Interstate 50 and the railroad tracks west.  Start climbing to 12,500 feet to make it over the pass, but stay as low as practical since the aircraft is unpressurised."

That trip (Canon City to Gunnison, Colorado) actually goes THROUGH Monarch Pass - no DC3 ever built could go OVER it.

[garymbuska]

Hey guys maybe I am missing something here but you can edit any flight plan before you save it. You can chose to fly from any point to any point or go in a circle if you want just click on the a waypoint to bring up the map and by left clicking the mouse on the red line you can drag it to any other vor ndb airport or intersection you want to. After you make the changes just save it and that is it. Once saved you can not make any changes to it.

[FLYING_TRUCKER]

Thanks for the input Nav

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

[FLYING_TRUCKER]

Hi Garymbuska:
Have tried that once I am in edit...however the red line (the Course Line) will not work properly.

At one time if you went from A to B..you clicked on B twice and went on to C and so on till you finished your route.

The course line on mine just does not do that, I can change the line between A and B if I want to say...fly over a VOR...but from B on I have problems with the course line.

It will not let me insert A as my departure point and have A as my destination either...that is the way a round trip should be.

I am probably doing something wrong or missing something but I do not know.

Your time and experience on this sure would be helpful AND if anyone else has any suggestions Please post them.

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

[Nav]

Doug -

Tried it - and pretty well solved the problem (I think).

1.  Set up a flight from A to B.

2.  On the route map, mouse/move the red line to any waypoints you like - they have to be airports, VORs, NDBs, or intersections, of course, but I don't see how they could have programmed it any other way.  If you make any mistakes, just delete that waypoint from the list on the right.

3.  From the last waypoint before your destination (B),  move the line to your home airport.

Then just don't fly the last leg!  :)

Tony

[FLYING_TRUCKER]

Ok Tony will try that

Thanks!

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

[garymbuska]

That is what I was trying to tell you I allmost allways edit my routes as sometimes the flight planner does not allways pick the straightest path. Esp true with some SID'S. A good example fly from KJAX TO KJAN(Jacksonville,Florida to Jackson Hole Wyoming) If you fly the SID it has you going to ORM which is ormond beach which is south east of jax then turn and head west. Kind of out of the way.
Just rember to click on the edit tab after the route has been generated. DO NOT SAVE if you do you will not be able to edit it without recreating the entire flightplan.

[FLYING_TRUCKER]

Thanks garymbuska am going to retry again.

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

[BFMF]

Cross Country Navigation is an important step to learning to fly, after all most aircraft do not have air to air refueling capability.

To many pilots fly from VOR TO VOR or use the GPS, that is fine until the hydro goes off, map reading is very important and that is what I am trying to do on the sim, just the way I do it in the actual aircraft.

The proper way to navigate a cross country trip is to use all the tools available which includes GPS, VORs, ADFs and maps.

if anyone else has any suggestions Please post them.

Lately, I've stopped using the GPS and the built in\moving map. Instead, I discovered that by using FSBrowser, and FSX-ionals! v2, you can view sectionals while flying. If anyone is interested I can show you screenshots, and fill you in on the details