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Help with landing

Postby tomekpalar » Mon Jun 28, 2004 11:59 pm

Hi there,
   1.    can anyone tell me the right approach speed for a Boeing 737-800.
   

    2.    Why is it that everytime I am about to touchdown on the runway and start my flare, the aircraft starts climbing.  Is it because of my speed or could it be something else.  

    3.  Everytime I come up on final I try to hold about 150 knots but the plane never makes it to the runway, it stalls.

    Please help.    

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Re: Help with landing

Postby Nexus » Tue Jun 29, 2004 6:44 am

The 738 doesn't need a big flare rotation, just some 2 degrees is fine (my touchdown attitude never exceeds 5 degrees), land with flaps 40, reduces both your approach speed and deck angle.

150kts is a good approach speed - if you're properly configured! You can't fly at 150kts unless you have extended the flaps to more than 15 degrees.
Infact, 150kts is a good vref+15 speed (if we have to choose a general speed), which means you're flying 15kts faster than threshold crossing speed.
So reduce your speed as you go thru the different flap settings. Approach speed for flaps 40 should be at around 140kts (standard vref+5)

Also check your gross weight, more specific your fuel load ;)
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Re: Help with landing

Postby pooty13901 » Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:02 am

Let me hop on this discussion here for more...

When you extend the flaps is it normal for the craft to lift the nose. If so, do you counter that by having reduced thrust just before extending incremented flaps or does the reduction in thrust come after the flaps are raised?
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Re: Help with landing

Postby Capt. Farhan » Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:42 am

hi.
i always keep my speed at little bit higher than the normal landing speed e.g 160 for the 737. when its time to flare i reduce the throotle completely in this way the speed upon touch down comes to 145 and my wheels touchdown smoothly
         now a days i am flying boeing 747-400. and i think its the most easiest plane in simulator.
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Re: Help with landing

Postby Silver1SWA » Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:26 pm

Let me hop on this discussion here for more...

When you extend the flaps is it normal for the craft to lift the nose. If so, do you counter that by having reduced thrust just before extending incremented flaps or does the reduction in thrust come after the flaps are raised?


Well I know from my Private Pilot training, that it is indeed normal for the nose to pitch upwards upon lowering flaps.
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Re: Help with landing

Postby Nexus » Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:36 pm

I don't know if I should take that as a compliment Silver ;)
But what you described reflects pretty much what I would answer to him.
It's much harder to properly fly a 737. In a cessna you get an instant reaction from the propeller, while you have to be more anticipating with the turbofan engines, especially with the old JT8Ds.
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Re: Help with landing

Postby randombeaner » Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:11 am

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Re: Help with landing

Postby Jolly_Roger » Wed Jun 30, 2004 1:55 pm

Thanks for the infomercial randombeaner.  I just ordered one! :)
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