Duplicate AI Flight Plans

[Staiduk]

'Lo all!

I've put up with this long enough - it's been with me right since I installed the sim first time.

At least 60-70% of all AI aircraft in my sim fly in tandem. I generally ignore it; but it makes takeoffs and landings at major airports a bloody nightmare with one or the other being constantly sent around. Landing at JFK is like playing roulette.

Is there a way to delete one set of AI flight plans? I know nothing at all about this part of the files.

Thanks.

[dgcx50x]

If you are having trouble with AI you can turn down the number of aircraft in your settings. I normally run 75% which provides enough AI to keep thing interesting but not in the way while taking off or landing.

[wji]

"I know nothing at all about this part of the files." Under these circumstances I'd recommend not deleting anything (cut and paste the *.bgl files to a backup folder may prove to be more benificial) Are you certain they are duplicates and not just several flights using the same aircraft?  Hope this helps.

[papa-metro]

my 2002 started this months ago and I don't know why either ... or how to correct it w/o uninstalling fs2002. most aggravating is two red call signs showing for many "flights" AND ATC talking to both of them  :-[
papa-metro usaf 1953-57

[CAFedm]

I have had this same problem since using FS2002, and also with having recently installed FS2004 - it seems the planes all congregate 5-10 min into the flight, if I hang around the departing airport long enough. Furthermore, it seems to occur at any airport. If anyone finds a fix, it would be great news...

[dave3cu]

Duplicate flights: This can happen when you install additional traffic and the author has used the default flightplans as his template,

[papa-metro]

well, i figure that is where the duplicates came from ... but how to relieve the situation and KEEP all tht i have added myself??
There are thousands of flight plans in there.
those who upload plans for us to download should be a wee bit more careful ... or selective. guess I'll trust only my own from now on.
papa-metro usaf 1953-57

[TwoLow]

I deleted the default FS traffic file and am running just the airlines I added and still duplicates. I swear 4 out of 5 planes is duplicated 2 or more times.

I am wondering if duplicates could be from the fact I'm running airline traffic AI files such as 'Delta' and 'South West' but I also am running 'TrafficUSA' which includes these airlines as well. If each program shows the exact same flight path at the same time could it cause duplicates?

I think I may start by turning them all off and then turning on the traffic files one by one...when i get time anyway.

[Staiduk]

Thanks much all, I'll try out your suggestions and let you know.

[dave3cu]

I am wondering if duplicates could be from the fact I'm running airline traffic AI files such as 'Delta' and 'South West' but I also am running 'TrafficUSA' which includes these airlines as well. If each program shows the exact same flight path at the same time could it cause duplicates?

For FS2004:

Yup, thats your problem. TrafficUSA uses the default traffic file as its template. At least one of the others must have done so also.

A handy tool for for working with ai is the MS FS2004 Traffic Toolbox SDK:
http://www.microsoft.com/games/flightsimulator/fs2004_downloads_sdk.asp#traffic

Once installed, a new flight screen "Tools" menu is available. With the 'Explorer' function you can sort thru all active ai flights, in this case, to locate duplicates. (If you right-click the column header bar you can select 'file path' and the traffic file names will be displayed).

The Explorer is best used from

[farmerdave]

I've seen this in my FS9 a few times too, only it was with Cessnas instead of commercial traffic.  I occasionally see formations of two and somtimes three 182s flying very close together.  I haven't a clue what would do this, because I haven't installed any addon GA traffic.

[dave3cu]

[quote]I've seen this in my FS9 a few times too, only it was with Cessnas instead of commercial traffic.