2009 707 Gauge Error in FSX

[Hagar]

CfgEdit is the predecessor of FS Panel Studio. It's very useful but cannot read XML gauges. Not really much help for this job.

[Hagar]

As you can see in this pic of the VC, the main differance in appearance was the three missing gauges on the left side of the panel and the area where the autopilot is on the FSX version.

http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/fs9707vc.jpg

The 3 missing gauges on the left appear to be the FS9 default Cessna.gau & Mooney_Bravo.gau plus the clock from B737_800.cab.

[ND6849C]

For Dave,

Going back to my thoughts on the pg.707 callouts I mentioned, and for the sake of the forum, I am posting this here, I have a temporary update, but I wanted to check first.

Let me first remind you that I no longer have FS9 on my system, but actually found out it's on the system, I had just deleted the icon off my desktop.

[ND6849C]

I want to thank you guys for your help.

[Hagar]

[quote]I want to thank you guys for your help.

[ShaneG_old]

Nah, I'm still here. Down, but not out.

The compass gauge was an easy replace. I've let the FS9 version go. In my opinion, the two are just two different to continue with that one. Instead, I'm just focusing on finding gauges for the 2009 version.


From your help with Cfg Edit, I belive most of the work is here:

Shift 5 needs the ALT SEL light, and the knob

http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/09707VC5.jpg

Shift 6 needs an entire set of engine gauges (normally handled by concorde gauge):

http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/09707VC6.jpg

Shift 8 needs the location of the chronometer fixed, and the three missing fs9 gauges put into it from Shift 7 as they appear to be the same panel only it's the right seat. Really useless I think to have this panel anyway as there is nothing here that is not in the other.

http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/09707VC8.jpg


What gets me the most, is that other than the missing engine gauges and the compass, the rest of what I've noticed to be missing seem to be just static image gauges that don't do anything (non clickable)

As I said, most of these panels were useless eye candy in the FS9 version.

I would eliminate most of the pop up windows in this plane just for their apparent uselessness. If you fly in VC mode or even the 2d panel, there is nothing in these pop ups other than the GPS that is needed or cannot be easily seen and managed in normal views.

The answer to fixing the pop ups is in the main panels as what is missing in the popups clearly works on the main VC and 2D.

[Hagar]

From your help with Cfg Edit, I belive most of the work is here:

Shift 5 needs the ALT SEL light, and the knob

http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/09707VC5.jpg

It might be possible to replace some of the missing gauges with FSX defaults. I'm at a disadvantage there as I don't have a full set.

Shift 6 needs an entire set of engine gauges (normally handled by concorde gauge):

http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/09707VC6.jpg

I can't understand why that engine pop-up panel displays without gauges. It's already configured to use the Concorde.gau included in the gauge update. I tried replacing it with a duplicate of the gauge renamed Concorde1.gau with no success. However, I'm not really sure why it's necessary. As you point out it could be removed. In fact, once you have all the missing gauges not much needs fixing at all.

Another thing puzzles me. If you compare your VC shot wih mine you will see that I'm missing part of the VC in front of the throttle console. It appears to be eye-candy with no functional gauges but I can't figure that out.
http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/fs9707vc.jpg
http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/da-fsx707vc1.jpg

[ShaneG_old]

Another thing puzzles me. If you compare your VC shot wih mine you will see that I'm missing part of the VC in front of the throttle console. It appears to be eye-candy with no functional gauges but I can't figure that out.
http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/fs9707vc.jpg
http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/da-fsx707vc1.jpg

Now that is strange, :-? Does it show in the 2D panel?
http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/097072d1.jpg

[Hagar]

Another thing puzzles me. If you compare your VC shot wih mine you will see that I'm missing part of the VC in front of the throttle console. It appears to be eye-candy with no functional gauges but I can't figure that out.
http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/fs9707vc.jpg
http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/da-fsx707vc1.jpg

Now that is strange, :-? Does it show in the 2D panel?
http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/097072d1.jpg

OK. I figured it out. It's a bug with the Air France model I've been using for testing.

[ShaneG_old]

I'm getting really tempted to just come up with an alternate panel.cfg for this plane and replace all those popup windows with more useful ones.

Wouldn't be to hard, and would provide more functionality to them.

[Hagar]

From what I can see most of those pop-ups are unnecessary. They could be removed without any problems. That leaves a couple of those incompatible gauges on the main 2D panel & VC to replace. Shouldn't be difficult.

[ShaneG_old]

Is anything in your VC clickable? Nothing in mine is, My 2d panel is fully functional, but not the VC. :-/

[Hagar]

Is anything in your VC clickable? Nothing in mine is, My 2d panel is fully functional, but not the VC. :-/

Apparently not. That could be a problem.

[ShaneG_old]

Bad news, this panel is apparently protected somehow. Every time I try to modify it, I get a CTD when I click fly now.

It doesn't seem to mind gauge swapping, but it won't allow me to change popup windows at all.

I was trying to substitute popup windows from the 737,747, and the lear, as I have done this before with several other planes, but had no luck with this one.

I understand if a designer wants to protect his work, but jeez, only do it if everything works correctly.

Back to plan A.

[Hagar]

Bad news, this panel is apparently protected somehow. Every time I try to modify it, I get a CTD when I click fly now.

It doesn't seem to mind gauge swapping, but it won't allow me to change popup windows at all.

I was trying to substitute popup windows from the 737,747, and the lear, as I have done this before with several other planes, but had no luck with this one.

I just tried it with pop-ups from the CRJ_700. No problems here. I suspect you forgot something.