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Help Wanted

Postby Gabriel Coach » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:56 pm

Hello everyone Im Gabriel Coach. me Eric and Darian are starting an Aircraft and Scenery project and we need some help. What we need is Profesional Aircraft, Panel, Virtual cockpit, and Scenery
Designers. Our Aircraft will be Boeins 733 with and without winglets, 757-200 300, 777-200 300, 767-200 300 400. And for scenery we will have KSTL,KSMF,KRNO. This will be Payware Aircraft so you will get paid 30% of every product sold every 4 months. I am very serious about this so people no fooling with me or messing up my products. Here is our site. www.southwestpub.org and you can email me at contact@southwestpub.org
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Re: Help Wanted

Postby Threadkiller » Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:30 am

few pointers.

i am a designer myelf, i dont consider myself a "professional designer", i just do it as a hobby.

if you and your mates are starting the team, and need pretty much a crew for deisgning, then what are your duties? other than speaking for the team or just being the "owner" and what not?

in my experience, designers look for teams who treat them as a family, not as another job. remember that this is a hobby and the sucess of a team resides on the treatment and equality of its members.

now, for another thing, if you're looking for Professional crew members then that's gonna cost you a bit more than the 30% every four months. most, if not all designers ask for at least 50% of EVERY model sold, the rate usually depends on how much work is done by each guy, the level of detail, the tools used and the time spent working on it, and its never set in stone. you also mentioned you "dont want anyone messing with your products" without the designers there would be no products to mess with.

im saying this through experience, i am a designer, as i said before, i do this as a hobby so i could care less if i do a lousy job or not. however i do have a constant contact with many recognized designers, exchanging ideas and often helping with advice or trouble shooting
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Re: Help Wanted

Postby SkyNoz » Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:48 pm

few pointers.

now, for another thing, if you're looking for Professional crew members then that's gonna cost you a bit more than the 30% every four months. most, if not all designers ask for at least 50% of EVERY model sold, the rate usually depends on how much work is done by each guy, the level of detail, the tools used and the time spent working on it, and its never set in stone. you also mentioned you "dont want anyone messing with your products" without the designers there would be no products to mess with.



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I was going to ask, how many designers were going to be apart of the team. It's seems to be true that the other members of the team would earn the 20-30% while true designers would ask for 40-50%. If it wasn't for the designers, where would your profit go, designers is where it's all at. I know I would be angry if in the long run I found out I was making less then the team leader, which in must cases that's what people try to do... :(
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Re: Help Wanted

Postby Prowler1111 » Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:37 pm

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Re: Help Wanted

Postby Gabriel Coach » Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:55 pm

I am willing to pay as much as I can.
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Re: Help Wanted

Postby Gabriel Coach » Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:58 pm

few pointers.

now, for another thing, if you're looking for Professional crew members then that's gonna cost you a bit more than the 30% every four months. most, if not all designers ask for at least 50% of EVERY model sold, the rate usually depends on how much work is done by each guy, the level of detail, the tools used and the time spent working on it, and its never set in stone. you also mentioned you "dont want anyone messing with your products" without the designers there would be no products to mess with.




+1

I was going to ask, how many designers were going to be apart of the team. It's seems to be true that the other members of the team would earn the 20-30% while true designers would ask for 40-50%. If it wasn't for the designers, where would your profit go, designers is where it's all at. I know I would be angry if in the long run I found out I was making less then the team leader, which in must cases that's what people try to do... :(



And there will be 4 designers. One for Models one for Virtual cockpits and one for Panel. If the Model Designer can do both VC and Model I will hire them to do both and A scenery designer. You guys would be treated as if you were my own son.
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Re: Help Wanted

Postby Gabriel Coach » Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:00 pm

Oh yes and Ill send the money through checks so Ill need adresses.
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Re: Help Wanted

Postby G-Fire25 » Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:58 pm

I'll beta test for free  ;)
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Re: Help Wanted

Postby Gabriel Coach » Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:01 pm

Ok only one spot www.southwestpub.org
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Re: Help Wanted

Postby alrot » Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:48 pm

I better say this  :-X :-X :-X :-X  ::)and good luck ,I hope you find your Help

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Re: Help Wanted

Postby Nick N » Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:26 pm

Hello everyone Im Gabriel Coach. me Eric and Darian are starting an Aircraft and Scenery project and we need some help. What we need is Profesional Aircraft, Panel, Virtual cockpit, and Scenery Designers. Our Aircraft will be Boeins 733 with and without winglets, 757-200 300, 777-200 300, 767-200 300 400. And for scenery we will have KSTL,KSMF,KRNO. This will be Payware Aircraft so you will get paid 30% of every product sold every 4 months. I am very serious about this so people no fooling with me or messing up my products. Here is our site. www.southwestpub.org and you can email me at contact@southwestpub.org
. Thankyou
                                                     



One thing I have found designers forget and leave out are little things that really make or break a great model. Detailed lights, touchdown, touchdown and takeoff air vortex, exhaust, dynamic wake turbulence for weather conditions and wing tip vortices along with contrails. All these items may appear simplistic to make and they can be if they are not designed with good details and thrown together with little thought in how the finished product looks. Looking 1/2 way decent, to me, is not enough. Also, many FX, if the aircraft even has them, also lack proper xml or c gauge control so they deploy correctly and under the right conditions.

Along with the model, textures and flight dynamics, those items are what 'sells' the aircraft as being realistic. Most people who use MSFS are not real pilots and enjoy aircraft for the visual eye candy they produce for screenshots as well as looking at it in action and thinking it looks very real. FX and details like that are what puts an offering into the catagory of a superior and desired product.

If you want to see what people find great, check the P2P networks and see what they are stealing.
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Re: Help Wanted

Postby supersabre79 » Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:19 pm

nice words, veery nice words
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