WIP:  TYhe RAF's last line of Defense!

Anything to do with Aircraft Design, FSDS, G Max, Aircraft Animator, SDL Edit, etc. Novice or skilled - stop here & learn!

WIP:  TYhe RAF's last line of Defense!

Postby Felix/FFDS » Sun Mar 06, 2005 12:00 pm

If Hurricane and SPitfire production had been seriously hurt, this WAS being considered ... cheap to build

Image
Felix/FFDS
User avatar
Felix/FFDS
Administrator
Administrator
 
Posts: 16776435
Joined: Wed Jan 31, 2001 9:42 am
Location: Orlando, FL

Re: WIP:

Postby Hagar » Sun Mar 06, 2005 12:29 pm

Aha. I see someone's been busy. :D

Nice one Felix. ;)
Image

Founder & Sole Member - Grumpy's Over the Hill Club for Veteran Virtual Aviators
Member of the Fox Four Group
My Google Photos albums
My Flickr albums
User avatar
Hagar
Colonel
Colonel
 
Posts: 30864
Joined: Wed Jun 19, 2002 7:15 am
Location: Costa Geriatrica

Re: WIP:

Postby Felix/FFDS » Sun Mar 06, 2005 12:58 pm

More and More I'm getting convinced that Mr. Miles deserves more recognition than he's received so far.
Felix/FFDS
User avatar
Felix/FFDS
Administrator
Administrator
 
Posts: 16776435
Joined: Wed Jan 31, 2001 9:42 am
Location: Orlando, FL

Re: WIP:

Postby FSEdge » Sun Mar 06, 2005 1:58 pm

Looks good!! How long have you been working on that one?

FSEdge
User avatar
FSEdge
2nd Lieutenant
2nd Lieutenant
 
Posts: 203
Joined: Fri May 31, 2002 11:10 am
Location: Texas

Re: WIP:

Postby Felix/FFDS » Sun Mar 06, 2005 2:23 pm

Looks good!! How long have you been working on that one?

FSEdge



about four hours total ...  I'm not going for 100% detail accuracy, but more for the "feel"

It's FSDS, of course, though some bits and pieces may get ported to gWax and back for, ahem, "detail work"

From a mesh modelling point of view, it's a bit "crude" (even by my relaxed standards)

From the two protoypes made, it appeared to be better than the Hurricane I, and quite comparable to the Spit I/II of the time.  Armament was 8x.303, so conceivably it could have taken cannon armament as a development.

The FAA tested it, comparing it better than the Martlett.

Even today, it seems like a good design for a homebuilt.. :)
Felix/FFDS
User avatar
Felix/FFDS
Administrator
Administrator
 
Posts: 16776435
Joined: Wed Jan 31, 2001 9:42 am
Location: Orlando, FL

Re: WIP:

Postby Stratobat » Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:46 pm

Hey Felix,

Looks great... Is that a Miles M.20?

Regards,
Stratobat
Image

'If the literal sense makes good sense, seek no other sense lest you come up with nonsense'
User avatar
Stratobat
Major
Major
 
Posts: 1132
Joined: Sat Sep 20, 2003 8:02 pm

Re: WIP:

Postby Felix/FFDS » Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:04 pm

Hey Felix,

Looks great... Is that a Miles M.20?

Regards,
Stratobat


Specifically, I'm basing it on Prototype No.2, with the "revised" landing gear.  Since I don't have much detailed information (yet), I'm taking certain liberties with the model.  I added external exhaust pipes (look neat) before realizing that the photos really show a small exhaust at each side.

It's hard to imagine that this little job packed 8 (or 12) guns, and even with fixed gear, it had performance that put it right up there with the Hurricane.
Felix/FFDS
User avatar
Felix/FFDS
Administrator
Administrator
 
Posts: 16776435
Joined: Wed Jan 31, 2001 9:42 am
Location: Orlando, FL

Re: WIP:

Postby Stratobat » Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:28 pm

It's hard to imagine that this little job packed 8 (or 12) guns, and even with fixed gear, it had performance that put it right up there with the Hurricane.


They should have given it retractable gear 8)

Not sure if you've seen this, but some info on the M.20 8)

http://www.aero51.plus.com/html/gallery/m20.htm

Regards,
Stratobat
Image

'If the literal sense makes good sense, seek no other sense lest you come up with nonsense'
User avatar
Stratobat
Major
Major
 
Posts: 1132
Joined: Sat Sep 20, 2003 8:02 pm

Re: WIP:

Postby Felix/FFDS » Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:08 pm

Would it surprise you to learn that the three view I'm using looks EXACTLY like the 3-view on that site?   ;)
Felix/FFDS
User avatar
Felix/FFDS
Administrator
Administrator
 
Posts: 16776435
Joined: Wed Jan 31, 2001 9:42 am
Location: Orlando, FL

Re: WIP:

Postby Hagar » Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:13 pm

Here's a nice shot you won't find on the Web. ;)

Image
Image

Founder & Sole Member - Grumpy's Over the Hill Club for Veteran Virtual Aviators
Member of the Fox Four Group
My Google Photos albums
My Flickr albums
User avatar
Hagar
Colonel
Colonel
 
Posts: 30864
Joined: Wed Jun 19, 2002 7:15 am
Location: Costa Geriatrica

Re: WIP:

Postby Stratobat » Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:13 pm

[quote]Would it surprise you to learn that the three view I'm using looks EXACTLY like the 3-view on that site?
Image

'If the literal sense makes good sense, seek no other sense lest you come up with nonsense'
User avatar
Stratobat
Major
Major
 
Posts: 1132
Joined: Sat Sep 20, 2003 8:02 pm

Re: WIP:

Postby FSEdge » Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:05 pm

Wow,

That's a very clean simple design. Personally I think looking at the 3-way views this would make an excellent first timer project. Does the tail wheel swivel or is it fixed?

FSEdge
User avatar
FSEdge
2nd Lieutenant
2nd Lieutenant
 
Posts: 203
Joined: Fri May 31, 2002 11:10 am
Location: Texas

Re: WIP:

Postby Felix/FFDS » Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:06 pm


Lmao... I kinda figures as much when I realised that there was nothing on Google :P

Are you going to add a VC?

Regards,
Stratobat



Most probably a rudimentary VC, nothing too fancy.  I'm not much of a panel maker.

Just got my set of plans from Bob Banka on the M.20 ...  suffice it to say it's an information overload - on both prototypes, and subtle variations on each...

I think the naval "version"  (No.2) was the better looking of the two.
Felix/FFDS
User avatar
Felix/FFDS
Administrator
Administrator
 
Posts: 16776435
Joined: Wed Jan 31, 2001 9:42 am
Location: Orlando, FL

Re: WIP:

Postby Stratobat » Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:42 pm

Here's a nice shot you won't find on the Web. ;)


So where did you find it ;D ?

I'm not much of a panel maker.


Have you been able to find any reference for the cockpit?

Regards,
Stratobat
Last edited by Stratobat on Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Image

'If the literal sense makes good sense, seek no other sense lest you come up with nonsense'
User avatar
Stratobat
Major
Major
 
Posts: 1132
Joined: Sat Sep 20, 2003 8:02 pm

Re: WIP:

Postby Hagar » Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:57 am

So where did you find it ;D ?

In a book on Miles aircraft. http://www.miles-aircraft.com/Publications_miles_aircraft.html
I've been interested in Miles aircraft designs for as long as I can remember. The company has a long connection with my local airport at Shoreham although it was based at Woodley when the M.20 was built. I know a lot of people who worked for the company.

PS. A reunion for all ex- Miles & Beagle Aircraft employees is scheduled at Shoreham later this year. All being well I shall be there with my camera.
Last edited by Hagar on Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:02 am, edited 1 time in total.
Image

Founder & Sole Member - Grumpy's Over the Hill Club for Veteran Virtual Aviators
Member of the Fox Four Group
My Google Photos albums
My Flickr albums
User avatar
Hagar
Colonel
Colonel
 
Posts: 30864
Joined: Wed Jun 19, 2002 7:15 am
Location: Costa Geriatrica

Next

Return to Aircraft & 3D Design

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 366 guests