Citation Excel Project

[adam_h]

hey, i am BRAND new with Gmax and Citation's are my favorite aircraft.  I was wondering if you wouldnt mind some more help..

 Adam

[Katahu]

Wasup Adam_h.

Thanks for coming in.

To expand your knowledge of GMAX, I suggest you go through the tutorials first (unless you have already done so). There are many sites that can give you a large amount of tutorials (freeflightdesign.com, onnovanbraam.com, and so on).

As for the cockpit, everyone, don't worry about the polygon count. I know that there are a lot of polys in the images I posted. You have to remember, the majority of the cockpit wall (the main cylinder) will be covered by the accessories (panel, flat floor, seats, side panels, cup holders, etc.).

Because of this, a lot of polys will be removed (since you won't be able to see them anyways). At the same time, the cockpit model will be Frame-Rate friendly.

While I was busy make the interior, I realized that the Yokes are one of the most toughest things to make (If you want to be precise) due to their shapes.

So far, all I need to add are these:

1. Floor
2. Animated pedals, and throttles
3. Animate the yokes
4. Add interior textures and DVC textures for active gauges.
5. Back portion of the interior
6. And, if you want, reflective windows.

Thanks to my little skill on the Mesh Smooth feature, I am able to manipulate the interior wall's curved surface so that they almost match the walls of the REAL Excel aircraft.

[Oz]

I agree with katahu. Theres a couple tutes out there that are really worth reading. BTW Katahu, do you use the 'spline method' in Gmax? I read Onnovanbraams tute but theres still some stuff i dont get.

[adam_h]

Hey everyone, glad to be a parr..Ok, do you have to send me any files to start the plane where you left off.  I am also a Newbie to Gmax VERY NEW but I am actually starting to get it(a true miracle  ;) )  I really cant wait to start building!

   Adam

[Oz]

just a thought now, since we we are getting more members (designers thankfully) why dont we do 2 projects at the same time. We split it into a division of projects. When one model needs more work then we'll focus on that but when things are 'steady' then we split it into two. I mean 9 Citations is alot, we'll proceed faster with this. Anyways just an idea...

[adam_h]

Oz, yea I agree..Also, are we going to let Virtual Airlines take the planes and repaint if they want.  I am in Virtual Flight Options and this is what they fly.  When we advance if you want me to tell them about us I surely will.  Also, what do you guys want me working on. I know you gave me that list but like I said to I have to get a file or do you just want me to make them from scratch and send them to you.

    Adam

[Oz]

i think youll have to wait till tomorrow to find that answer. Either way more designers is better. All we really need now is a good painter...

[jlvandem]

 I think having Adam start a new project would be a good idea. Now really all we have to do is decide which aircraft he should start on. Do we wanna work down with the list starting with the X or work up starting with the Mustang? Personally I think starting with the X and working down would be better since the Mustang and CJ3 still haven't recieved FAA approval and the Mustang doesn't even have a prototype out yet. What do you guys think? Also I think we'll let anyone repaint the aircraft as long as they ask permission why not? It is freeware.
 Sounds like things are going good with the VC Katahu. I think reflective windows would also be a nice touch. When your done could you maybe help me with the model? It seems my 3-views aren't to scale and i'm realizing that the engine placement is all wrong. It's still gonna need some major work! Now we just need to find a painter and someone to do the 2D panel.

Justin

[adam_h]

Ok, if you dont mind can I maybe start on the Citation 1?  I know a lot about that aircraft.  I can always do the X though.  Like I said, I am REALLY new to Gmax and now my painting program's are giving me prob's.  I also downloaded Gmax since I have FS2002 standard so once I make a plane can I send it to you and you guys can make the folder.  I am really trying to learn Gmax though.  If anyone wants to help me feel free.  I start up the game and I dont even know how to start lol.  I'll get it though.  I am reading many Tut's.  Once again if anyone wants to help me contact me on this forum,AIM, or email.


  Adam

[jlvandem]

Ok sounds good Adam you can't start the CJ1 when you're ready. I'm asuming you already have a 3-view if not just tell me and I can find one. Thanks.

Justin

[adam_h]

I sont think I have had a three.. What ever that is..I am really working hard to start so if you want you can send me a 3 view..

[jlvandem]

Ok I found you one. The 3-view is what you work off of to make the model look acurate. Here's the CJ1.



Have fun!

Justin

[Felix/FFDS]

that 3-view looks familiar ...

[jlvandem]

Hmm I wonder why?  ;)

Justin

[adam_h]

Ok thanks for the prints Justin..Ok, well, I am using Pixle for my repainting and I have all those probs in control.  So I am elgible to paint our Citation Excel or help who ever may need it painting it... I am off on summer break with a hurt shoulder so I am not doing much of anything.  Just ask because I will be MORE than happy to paint.  Once again if you want me to start trying to build that Citation 525 just let me now.

   Adam