Next step on my clock?

[NickN]

Almost forgot..

When you make a change to MemSet and wish to boot the new change

1. Make settings change
2. Click APPLY
3. Click DEL SAVE
4. Accept the delete and then accept saving

that will make and save your change for boot

You should boot Windows, start memset and just verify you are on the tRD and tREF you saved.. from that point on its automatic


I bet you will now see a solid difference in FSX


Clocking your video card is last... Assuming you DO overclock your video card now.. when you get the new proc and run 450 FSB you may (or may not) need to back off the core and memory overclock on the video card if you see any instability. Raising FSB does increase the possibility of PCie instability with a high VC clock but you make up for that by setting the FSB and STRAP as listed

[vgbaron]

OK, I follow.  No prob using Memset. Now to revisit XP & O&O setups and I'm good to go......after I get my license keys sorted out. A few og my Flight One products need resetting after the new install.

Thanx again - it was fun!!

Vic

[NickN]

you are most welcome Vic

Just head back to this thread and use it as a reference when ever you need to in the future.

It pretty much covers the process for any clock

Remember.. if you end up with a intermittant lockup test with PL at 7 and if the lockups stop we can try and make a few other BIOS changes to stablize PL6 for you which will run FSX much better

[vgbaron]

OK  - have the Q9650 - will start tonight.

Procedural questions -

1. Set vCore,FSB & Strap to Auto before replacing CPU?

2. Set close to expectedl values before replacing?

3. Just replace and adjust on first boot?


Vic

[NickN]

delete any saved Memset in windows

yes, reset the BIOS back to a normal operation till you get the processor in and verified its working

Dont try clocking anything till you confirm you are good to go then start setting up the clock and testing just like you did in the beginning of this thread... except FSB will be 450... then check the CPU STRAP for the correct value which displays 1066-1080 memory speed... probably the 333 STRAP

more than likely vcore will be somewhere around 1.28-1.30, NB around 1.55

because you are going to 450MHz its possible you wont get to PL 6 on the memory.. but do it one step at a time... processor/FSB clock first, then work out memset

[vgbaron]

Got it! Thanx Nick!

[vgbaron]

ok installed and beginning the procedure. One question comes up - I'm using Coretemp 0.99.3 and it shows TJM of 100C

Temps under load ( OCCT )
53
47
59
59

6C difference between Core0 & 2&3?

I removed, cleaned and reapplied arttic silver 5 according to layout on their site.

I noticed at idle the readings were
38
37
47
47

I realize the compound has to burn in but just haven't seen this difference before.

Vic

[NickN]

you are using a P Quad... the Q6600 is a 65nm chip... big difference a P Quad is 45nm

As long as you are under 75c max temp and not higher than 1.36v vcore you are fine

[vgbaron]

ok - at vCore 1.256 3.8G

Max temp under Occt 30 minutes -

[vgbaron]

450/333 1081 memory

Stable 1 hr OCCT - vCore 1.336 NB 1.45

Max temp 73C ( on 2 cores ) other two were 66C

Now lowering vCore and looking for sweet spot



Surprised memory running at 1081 5-5-5-12 2T - haven't done the memory tweaks yet

[NickN]

just checked the BIOS math... yep, you should also notice the base PL is higher too. According to the numbers you should not be running 8 by default

Remember you have made a major gear shift on the northbridge so running PL6 is not required however the lower that value the better


Based on the temps you are at the max now.. but you wont hit those numbers running FSX

I dont know what HSF you are using but the OCZ Vendetta2 would probably be a good investment and when you use thermal compound you only need a tiny drop spread as thin as an onion skin.. not a thick paste.


You should definitely be seeing a change in FSX even over what you were seeing before. The proc you are using now is 10% more efficient clock per clock even not overclocked and using the lower latency across the NB 12-15%+ on the same GHz is a reasonable estimate of the advantage.. in other words, even if you were only running 3.6GHz you would still be 12-15% faster than the Q6600. Because you are now at 4050... I dont have to tell you the rest

Welcome to the "Pro" club

[vgbaron]

Still bringing the vCore down - stable at 1.320 so I'll drop it another tick and keep trying.

I set the PL to 8 when I started and have done nothing with the memory. So fr it's running fine at 1081 with those settings - will tweak when I get to lowest vCore.

I'm using a Thermaltake Liquid cooling system but I think you may be right about the paste. I always used about a grain of rice. This time, on the Arctic Silver site they recommend a thin LINE of paste across the chip - says it will cover the cores better.  I think I'll remove it tomorrow night and do it my way.

V

[NickN]

Uh geeze...  brain fart

LOL

Sorry.. I forgot... lately I have been doing hit and runs on threads being busy with GEX

That

[vgbaron]

No prob - I realize you've got a lot of stuff on your plate.

I'm a woodworker so I lap my plane irons and chisels. Have a lapping plate already set up, just nenver used it on a CPU. Could go down to a mirror finish with some 5 micron sheets that I have.

Think I'll give it a shot tonight just for the heck of it.

BTW, been 2 hours stable at 450 and vCore of 1.312. NB is 1.47 so I'm going to try to drop that a tad also.

Then the memory.

What really amazes me - this same memory that I had in the 680i board would NOT run stable above 800 even tho it's rated at 1066. I was about to dump it and get more. Now with the Rampage, it's running at 1081 and seems happy as a clam.

IMHO, lends a strong vote to getting quality hardware.

Vic

[NickN]

you may need to raise NB to lower vcore.. you know the drill.. work it out

As for mirror finish.. it wont make the temp any better.. flat and clean is the key and mirror is not necessary however it doesnt hurt either