Water Cooling and Over-clocking

[NickN]

I dont fiddle

I know what I am doing and have been doing it for a very long time even before computer parts were not desigen to 'self' monitor for overheating

As long as temps remain in spec and with modern CPUs/video adapters that provide temp readings along with automatic thermal shutdown.. overclocking is a breeze and you have to really try and burn somthing up with todays hardware. About the only area not 'self' monitored is memory so raising the voltage and speed of memory has risks especially for someone who is not versed or experience in clocking.

There are always risks to doing anything... including getting up in the morning and going to work.


Correct overclocking of modern hardware can net the user 1000 dollars of performance, for next to nothing other than perhaps the cost of a good CPU cooler



Water cooling is overkill. there is only one water cooling unit on the market that will outdo the air cooler Thermalrite 120 Extreme for about 70 dollars with the fan purchases,

[Brett_Henderson]

[quote]I have never been one to fiddle about, when everything I have seems to be working to my satisfaction.... ...!

...as has been said, time and time again, ....

If it aint broke, don't try and fix it...

...and risk trashing what you have already got!.. ...!

Why mess about with something that is working perfectly O.K...

...just for the sake of "Fiddling about"?.... ...!

Paul...I would much prefer to mow the grass...much more practical...Trust me......!

.... ....!

...I am sure that urinating (Water Cooling) on my trusty Socket A, AMD 2600+MMX Central Processor

[Fozzer]

My trusty, non over clocked, AMD Socket A Athlon XP 2600+ MMX gets hot enough to slowly fry an egg on it, even with a good quality Cooler+Fan, and loads of ventilation within the case....

...but it runs all my current software programs to my perfect satisfaction....

...equals one happy Bunny... ...!

If, by chance, I should install a piece of software that requires a greater speed from my processor, guess what I will do....

Buy a faster Processor!... ...!

It's what I have always done since my old Intel 486 DX 100 in the distant past.... ...!

Paul....Zilog Z80... ...now theres an even greater blast from my past. Programming in pure Machine Code!

[Brett_Henderson]

So.. if you decided to install software that required 3.0ghz, quad core performance (like FSX

[Brett_Henderson]

Nevermind... don't answer that.. we're going in circles..  

[Fozzer]

Nevermind... don't answer that.. we're going in circles..  

OOpppsss..

Danger, danger....You mentioned ...FSX.... ... ...!

I purchased...FSX...on the day it was released in England.
Had to wind everything down to the absolute minimum to get it to work after a fashion....(never had to do that before, with my other FS software)!
Spent most days ever since observing (from a vast distance if possible) all the goings-on in the FSX Forum to get the program to run anywhere near everyones satisfaction.
So my decision has been; do I spend loads of money upgrading all my hardware especially to run FSX..... .....
...or be perfectly satisfied with what I've already got, (to run all my other software; Games, FS 2004, etc), and give my flying club

[Brett_Henderson]

Yeah..it's a priority and proportional thing. I fly real aircraft several times a week, over long distances; so what I spend on computer stuff is pretty inconsequential.

Since my simming interest goes well into aircraft model design, I really don't have a choice but to stay current. And overclocking allows me to save hundreds of dollars while doing it

[drummer_tom]

So in conclusion then, it's not worth buying something like this? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Thermaltake-CL-W0 ... 18Q2el1247


Tom

[Brett_Henderson]

So in conclusion then, it's not worth buying something like this? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Thermaltake-CL-W0 ... 18Q2el1247


Tom

I wouldn't buy it for a sensible overclocking job.. A good aftermarket heatsink and fan is all you need.

Of course for the fun value in learning and playing with water-cooling, it's cheap tuition..  :)

[ThatOnePerson]

Stay away from the bigwater, far away!

[drummer_tom]

Stay away from the bigwater, far away!

That doesn't sound good! What's wrong with it?

[NickN]

Stay away from the bigwater, far away!

That doesn't sound good! What's wrong with it?

Its garbage, both design and parts quality

The ONLY complete water system on the market that is worth the 'use' (not the money spent) is the Zalman Resonator XT

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cooler ... or-xt.html

http://www.zalman.com/ENG/product/Produ ... sp?Idx=185


That only cools the processor too

The only way to really use liquid right and cool everything in the tower is to make it yourself from good quality separate parts ordered online and that takes experience.

You can make a liquid system that will keep things cooler than air, however it is NOT quieter than air cooling and it will cost you, quite a bit.

With the newer 45nm processors and newer designed motherboard... liquid cooling is dead. You can overclock to the max on air now (except extreme overclocks which you dont use for everyday computing)

[raptorx]

Even the Swiftech systems?  I've read some favorable reviews on those.  

-Jim

P.S.  Overclocking a computer is like beefing up a car.  Just because it isn't always necessary doesn't mean it isn't fun!  Here's the difference:  beefing up a car is a LOT more $$$$$$.

[NickN]

[quote]Even the Swiftech systems?

[drummer_tom]

no matter what, its not quieter than air.. the radiator must be air cooled and that takes fans anyway

That's interesting you say that, Nick. Many reviews I have red on the WWW have said that it is much quieter than air. This makes me think some of these reviews may be biased!