FS-GS Service.. Seeing Is Believing

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Re: FS-GS Service.. Seeing Is Believing

Postby FridayChild » Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:07 pm

Now that we have wiped the slate clean, if there is someone here who is *not* a FS-GS customer and has figured out on his/her own what those values are, feel free to post them.
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Re: FS-GS Service.. Seeing Is Believing

Postby Gunny04 » Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:01 pm

Maybe I am a bit dull in the head but..... for 73 USD Couldnt you just buy a decent GPU on Ebay if your computer had medium range specs and just crank up the settings as much as you want before lag? Seriously, even on a MX440 I could run 70% of the game without traffic etc but it looked ugly in screens because of jaggys, other than that, perfect..... I just dont understand this method of going, then again I am a do it myself type of person.... Can somebody clarify this too me or flame me out for being a bit idiodic? Cheers, Gunny
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Re: FS-GS Service.. Seeing Is Believing

Postby NicksFXHouse » Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:09 pm

Maybe I am a bit dull in the head but..... for 73 USD Couldnt you just buy a decent GPU on Ebay if your computer had medium range specs and just crank up the settings as much as you want before lag? Seriously, even on a MX440 I could run 70% of the game without traffic etc but it looked ugly in screens because of jaggys, other than that, perfect..... I just dont understand this method of going, then again I am a do it myself type of person.... Can somebody clarify this too me or flame me out for being a bit idiodic? Cheers, Gunny


Simple... I know hardware and currently own what would be considered a high end system. It
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Re: FS-GS Service.. Seeing Is Believing

Postby FridayChild » Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:10 am

Again, I think that a series of "before/after" screenies produced by the same system (w/o hardware changes) would be the ultimate seeing is believing tool,
Why is nobody answering the call?  ???
I'm sure that any one who is interested in making the best out of FS9 at the point of using the service would have half a ton of screenies taken before the treatment. Just fly on the same location, take the same shot and voila.
We have seen wonderful screenies by users here who are fs-gs customers, so half the work is done, but i think the "before/after" thingy would speak for itself (we could even make it sticky and send there people who ask about the service).  :)
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Re: FS-GS Service.. Seeing Is Believing

Postby Gunny04 » Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:55 am

If you know how to look and are patient enough you can Get a good Graphics card for 70 USD.... But I just dont understand, How can something with an engine already in it and out for 2 years any bit better? I might be daft, but for some reason this doesnt register with me too well,
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Re: FS-GS Service.. Seeing Is Believing

Postby NicksFXHouse » Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:47 pm

All I will say here is this
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Re: FS-GS Service.. Seeing Is Believing

Postby eno » Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:24 am

If you know how to look and are patient enough you can Get a good Graphics card for 70 USD.... But I just dont understand, How can something with an engine already in it and out for 2 years any bit better? I might be daft, but for some reason this doesnt register with me too well,  a good overclock, some decent cooling and a Medium Range computer with a few upgrades does it well enough from what I can tell. Cheers, The Daft Gunny


For what you will pay for cooling a new graphics card extra memory and then shortening the life of the afore mentioned by overclocking....... you may as well pay for FS-GS and save the extra cash that the other option will cost to buy some decent addons for your sim.

Also and on the other end, if some FS-GS user has some before/after screenies to share, to help see the difference, it'd be great.


Screenshots do not show the full benefits of FS-GS as they are static. However your wish is my command.

Before ...... note the ground textures are blurred right across the shot.
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After.....  a similar shot note the clear ground textures right across the shot.
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Ask yourself this ...... can you increase your view distance to infinity without the textures becomming blurred and flickering? Can you pan round your aircraft, in spot view, and have a completely smooth and clear picture as you do? If the answer is no then you would benefit from FSGS. However they are not the only things that improve. Instead of knocking it try it ..... you have absolutely NOTHING to loose, you either get a smooth running sim/computer or you don't pay. That is how confident Michael is about his service.

Here's the challenge ...... lets see you post screenshots that are of the same quality as Fly2e's. Without using FS-GS there's only one person on these forums who I think comes close.
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Re: FS-GS Service.. Seeing Is Believing

Postby FridayChild » Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:14 am

I agree that static pictures only show half of the lot (the other half being smooth animation), but the do speak loud by themselves, so I'm glad that at last someone agreed to post a "before/after". I'm also confident that this will reduce the amount of time you'll have to spend describing why FS-GS is worth it. Just redirect the queries to this topic ;)
As for the challenge, I'm not willing to take it; I already know I couldn't win it... maybe some other daring folk will try?
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Re: FS-GS Service.. Seeing Is Believing

Postby eno » Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:17 am

The improvement was purely through FS-GS.
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Re: FS-GS Service.. Seeing Is Believing

Postby PisTon » Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:51 am

Ask yourself this ...... can you increase your view distance to infinity without the textures becomming blurred and flickering? Can you pan round your aircraft, in spot view, and have a completely smooth and clear picture as you do?

I can :)
Here's the challenge ...... lets see you post screenshots that are of the same quality as Fly2e's. Without using FS-GS there's only one person on these forums who I think comes close.

Hmmmmmm.
I'll try :P Also is that person who comes close Ramsa329 himself?
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Re: FS-GS Service.. Seeing Is Believing

Postby eno » Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:33 am

I can :)
Hmmmmmm.
I'll try :P Also is that person who comes close Ramsa329 himself?


FS-GS ...... is Ramsa329's  baby so you would expect his screenies to be a shining example.  ;D
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Re: FS-GS Service.. Seeing Is Believing

Postby NicksFXHouse » Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:29 am

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FS-GS ...... is Ramsa329's
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Re: FS-GS Service.. Seeing Is Believing

Postby ubntfp » Sun Jul 09, 2006 4:24 am

I am about to upgrade / build a new system so will not pay for FS-GS yet but...  I did go to the website and download the free tweak.  I could average 20 maybe 23 on a nice day but would drop to 3 - 4 fps when hitting with FRAPS.  After using this tweak and omega drivers I was seeing 40fps, I actually got 20 at one point with FRAPS recording  :o. and for the first time ever was able to have graphics maxed , go into spot mode and just spin around the plane with out freezing and with smoth lines.  

Also the ground scenery has vastly improved as has the clouds.

For me I am sold, can't wait to get mine tweaked by Michael.

Bit confused, I just read that aparently FS doesn't support sli??? was going to build new system around FS using sli  :(  Can anyone explain why this cannot be done?

Trying to find the link for omega drivers as they do Nvidia aswell as ATI but have lost it, will post when I find it.

Can't find the link here on FS, as I read about them here, but here is the website... http://www.omegadrivers.net/
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Re: FS-GS Service.. Seeing Is Believing

Postby FridayChild » Sun Jul 09, 2006 7:03 am

What is the free tweak you're talking about?  ???
Most of all, where is it?
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Re: FS-GS Service.. Seeing Is Believing

Postby ubntfp » Sun Jul 09, 2006 8:08 am

Sorry completely forgot to put the link in  :-[
http://www.fs-gs.com/downloads.htm

Took a while to figure out but it shuts down progs before FS starts and re-activates them after so that FS has more CPU resourses.

I think thats a very basic description but it does do more.
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