To hot?

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Re: To hot?

Postby NicksFXHouse » Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:35 am

[quote]I've had a look on Everest but can't find anywhere that tells me the temps of my GPU.
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Re: To hot?

Postby ctjoyce » Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:54 am

I've had a look on Everest but can't find anywhere that tells me the temps of my GPU.  (GForce TI4600 128MB).

I don't think that that card has a thermometer or a diode on it, and therefore you cannot moniter your temps.

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Re: To hot?

Postby NicksFXHouse » Sun Jul 09, 2006 12:17 pm

now THATS funny!

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Mine would read:  

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Re: To hot?

Postby NicksFXHouse » Sun Jul 09, 2006 12:20 pm

I don't think that that card has a thermometer or a diode on it, and therefore you cannot moniter your temps.

Cheers
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I did not even catch that... shows you how morning time, old age and no coffee effects the mind.

LOL


Cameron is right, there ain't no temp monitor on the card.. its too old.
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Re: To hot?

Postby Jakemaster » Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:23 pm


What motherboard are you running?


Ummm, whatever came in the eMachines T6410....

Ill try and figure out what it is

EDIT! It is an ATi RS480
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Re: To hot?

Postby NicksFXHouse » Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:37 pm


Ummm, whatever came in the eMachines T6410....

Ill try and figure out what it is

EDIT! It is an ATi RS480



Emachine might be a problem...

here is a site that shows the motherboard ATi RS480 BIOS:

http://www.digital-daily.com/motherboar ... ndex03.htm

and here is the screen:
http://www.3dnews.ru/documents/8657/bios-cnq.jpg

It appears to be listed under ADVANCED, assuming your BIOS is the same as the one on that page.
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Re: To hot?

Postby Jakemaster » Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:27 pm



Emachine might be a problem...

here is a site that shows the motherboard ATi RS480 BIOS:

http://www.digital-daily.com/motherboar ... ndex03.htm

and here is the screen:
http://www.3dnews.ru/documents/8657/bios-cnq.jpg

It appears to be listed under ADVANCED, assuming your BIOS is the same as the one on that page.





CRUD!  My BIOS looks nothing like that, and I cant find a download for a new one.  I guess my PC will continue to run hot forever
:(
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Re: To hot?

Postby NicksFXHouse » Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:13 am

[quote]

CRUD!
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Re: To hot?

Postby Jakemaster » Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:48 am



Will they still support the unit? Contact emachines (I dont know if thats possible or not) and see if they have a solution

Now you know why we build our own systems!

PS: Try some google searching for your model of emacine and Cool and Quiet... also known as Cool -N- Quiet, Cool&Quiet, Cool & Quiet, C&Q

I did not spend allot of time searching myself




I wil try all those things...

I would have done home built but I didnt have the money (every component of my computer except the ram was purchased for me at one point or another)
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Re: To hot?

Postby congo » Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:30 pm

I don't see a problem with ubntfp's 45* temp even under water cooling, I mean that CPU would easily reach 60-65* under extended high load in summer temps on air.

If the ambient temps are low, then yes, something is wrong, but if the room is hot, it seems like a 15* reduction on water would be a good result.

Adequate case airflow is the easiest thing to diagnose, take the sidecover off and if temps drop markedly, then you have an airflow problem.

Jakemaster, C&Q won't reduce your temps at high load, C&Q drops the specs back during idle periods only. As soon as you run an app that requires CPU power, the specs return to max and the heat is being produced again. At best, C&Q reduces system wear at periods of inactivity or light system load, which is admirable if the system is left idle for long periods, but little use on a machine that is used almost exclusively for simming/gaming.

Be happy with temps up to 55* under extended load, going through the 60* mark is too hot for a socket 939 CPU in my opinion, but bear in mind that the inbuilt CPU protection doesn't kick in until temps are well over that.
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Re: To hot?

Postby NicksFXHouse » Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:36 pm

A 45c CPU temp @ idle (assuming the motherboard monitoring software is correct) in my opinion is hot. Although it will run warm, an AMD64 should run much cooler than the Athlon of the past.

I would not run mine that hot @ idle or load.

It is however VERY possible his motherboard sensor is out of calibration by as much as 10c being an Emachine BIOS... I would not doubt it one bit.
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Re: To hot?

Postby congo » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:22 am

45* would seem hot to you Nick, but 35-38* is typical ambient here is summer. In Western Australia, their ambient is in the 40's and hits low 50's, PSU's actually catch fire out there.

In summer, I'm happy as long as operating temps don't go over 60* here. I don't overclock on the hot days for that reason. Typically it's midnight before things start cooling down.

I've asked several folks what their CPU temps are and they report in the seventies.

I was in Brisbane a few weeks ago and stayed at a fellow Simmer's house and tweaked his PC, in the process finding his 3.0ghz P4 running at 78*, it was completely choked with dust. After cleaning, we got a drop of 20* under full load, down to 58*C, but this is winter now and the ambient was around 20*C that night. I wanted to replace the HS compound, but I'd had a couple beers and was having a difficult time with the HSF clamp, so I bailed out before I busted the plastic clamp.

So many guys go nuts thinking their temps are high, but the reality is that most PC's are running way too hot and they are never diagnosed, simply because they are still working and their owners don't know the difference.
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Re: To hot?

Postby NicksFXHouse » Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:36 pm

45* would seem hot to you Nick, but 35-38* is typical ambient here is summer. In Western Australia, their ambient is in the 40's and hits low 50's, PSU's actually catch fire out there.

In summer, I'm happy as long as operating temps don't go over 60* here. I don't overclock on the hot days for that reason. Typically it's midnight before things start cooling down.

I've asked several folks what their CPU temps are and they report in the seventies.

I was in Brisbane a few weeks ago and stayed at a fellow Simmer's house and tweaked his PC, in the process finding his 3.0ghz P4 running at 78*, it was completely choked with dust. After cleaning, we got a drop of 20* under full load, down to 58*C, but this is winter now and the ambient was around 20*C that night. I wanted to replace the HS compound, but I'd had a couple beers and was having a difficult time with the HSF clamp, so I bailed out before I busted the plastic clamp.

So many guys go nuts thinking their temps are high, but the reality is that most PC's are running way too hot and they are never diagnosed, simply because they are still working and their owners don't know the difference.


If you put it in that perspective.. I see your point. Yes, the CPU temp will be relative the ambient air temp and H2 of the environment.

Even so, with AMD C&Q and a high ambient I still see 45c at idle as high unless one is living in the Sahara
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