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Re: First Custom FSX build

Postby G1000Pilot » Thu May 28, 2009 11:39 am

Nick,

After I update ASA and boot the default flight all is ok; however, when I open the ASA wx gauge and click on one of the options is freezes the game. Once I restart the system it works fine. Is this normal after an update is put in?

I also put a post up on Squawkbox 4.0, do you have any knowledge on this? From my readings it appears to have a few issues with Trend and Norton AV. Should I hold off on this until everything else is tuned, or do it before defrag?

Newegg thermal compound should be here today and hopefully I get the rest of my software in today to install the cooler tomorrow!
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Re: First Custom FSX build

Postby NickN » Thu May 28, 2009 11:46 am

Just the CPU

Now, what you can do if the base of a new heatsink unit that comes in contact with the CPU is not a mirror finish is prep it by taking a clean piece of plastic.. like a piece of plastic shrink wrap from one of the delivered boxes.. and place a very tiny dab (and I do mean tiny) in the center of the contact face... then rub it and rub it off with the same plastic so what you are leaving behind is a very fine film of thermal compound. It will look like a 'stain' or water mark on the base of the new HS and will not have any excess.

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Re: First Custom FSX build

Postby G1000Pilot » Thu May 28, 2009 11:55 am

rgr that

FYI on my To Do:

1)cap. sim 757
2)the Nvidia Driver you recommended
3)Nhancer
4)Windows Optimisation
5)Heatsink Install
5)Defrags
6)Nick OC Help and Tuning of FSX  ;D
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Re: First Custom FSX build

Postby NickN » Thu May 28, 2009 12:07 pm

Nick,

After I update ASA and boot the default flight all is ok; however, when I open the ASA wx gauge and click on one of the options is freezes the game. Once I restart the system it works fine. Is this normal after an update is put in?

I also put a post up on Squawkbox 4.0, do you have any knowledge on this? From my readings it appears to have a few issues with Trend and Norton AV. Should I hold off on this until everything else is tuned, or do it before defrag?

Newegg thermal compound should be here today and hopefully I get the rest of my software in today to install the cooler tomorrow!



You dont change weather in mid flight.. however 'game freeze' does not sound right.

The patch they postsed is still a beta.

With ASA here is how I set it, and forget it....


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All I do is

1. Launch ASA

2. Wait for internet weather to download, strings to initialize and connect to FSX

3. Make any changes I wish for the flight I wish to take (make sure to SAVE and APPLY)

4. Minimize to tray

4. Start FSX



Its possible that last patch may have a bug in it,, if the problem continues, try the B406 patch

http://www.mediafire.com/file/jn0n1tyy2 ... e-B406.zip


But do keep in mind that FSX weather is wonky... you really do not want to be making weather changes in mid-flight with any weather engine.. and right now the ASA patches are still in BETA
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Re: First Custom FSX build

Postby NickN » Thu May 28, 2009 12:26 pm

also,.. you should get you DRIVERS in order before messing with anything.. drivers can cause crashes and until you get that sorted correctly with nhancer you really should ne be screwing with other things.

I know drivers can be problematical.. but its best to get them installed and set up correctly as that is part of the hardware aspect
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Re: First Custom FSX build

Postby G1000Pilot » Thu May 28, 2009 12:31 pm

when you say drivers you mean for the GC right? everything else should be good to go right?
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Re: First Custom FSX build

Postby G1000Pilot » Thu May 28, 2009 1:40 pm

Per some tests I read it appears it is best to put the heat sink fan to a PUSH method. I will try and push the air up to the top of the case since i have a vent fan on top. How do you do yours?
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Re: First Custom FSX build

Postby NickN » Thu May 28, 2009 2:01 pm

Yes, video card drivers


you need to have a case that FEEDS the system and gets the hot air out without flow interruption.. I use this layout with my tower


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Re: First Custom FSX build

Postby NickN » Thu May 28, 2009 3:13 pm

There is a announcement I made here in the hardware forum..

It will not apply to you and I will monitor this thread and continue with it, however do be aware my answers may not come quite as fast as they usually do. You should hear from me at least twice a day though
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Re: First Custom FSX build

Postby G1000Pilot » Fri May 29, 2009 10:11 am

Thanks Nick!

I have all addons installed now, as well as Nhancer (nothing touched on that yet) and the CPUID program. The final touches for OS optimization are being done and then I will put in the new heatsink Sat. AM.

Is Nhancer supposed to start with windows or should I turn that off?

For OO Defrag: should I do my drives twice even though they are new with the system? And Can i do both drives at the same time?
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Re: First Custom FSX build

Postby NickN » Fri May 29, 2009 1:59 pm

Tuning Thread, Nhancer section:


THERE IS NO NEED TO RUN NHANCER AT WINDOWS BOOT OR RUN IT IN THE TRAY






You MUST follow the order I posted.. New drives ARE the reason for multiple defrag passes.. You are NOT defragged on the first pass regardless of what the GUI shows... which is what I posted in the Windows tuning thread.

EVEN IF THE GRAPHIC DISPLAY shows everything is in order in O&O Defrag that does NOT mean it is. Since this is your first time doing a COMPLETE NAME Defrag maintenance, repeat the defrag. If you have done a COMPLETE\NAME Defrag in the recent past you can skip the second run.


Multiple NAME defrags are the KEY to the performance they provide.

The only warning I posted was about the use of the SPACE defrag after a NAME Defrag has been run using O&O version 10 ONLY. V8.5/8.6/v11 are safe to follow that list.
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Re: First Custom FSX build

Postby NickN » Fri May 29, 2009 2:13 pm

One other thing too

O&O has identified a issue with their video driver which allows the OFFLINE defrag screen to display. If the driver they include is not working correctly with the video card you will get a scrambled screen when the offline defrag tool starts before Windows boots.

The fix for that is posted here:

http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2 ... 959973/2#2

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NOTE:

For Boot Time visual interface corruption please note this fix from O&O:


This problem does happen when our graphics driver is not compatible with your graphics card. Please rename the following file:

C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\oobctm.sys

eg. to

C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\oobctm.bak

This file is the grahics card driver for O&O Defrag. If the file is not there, the Windows default driver will be used for offline defragmentation instead.

Note: Don't open O&O Defrag after you rename the driver, this will cause to reinstall the driver again. Therefore change the settings for the offline defragmentation before.

Restart your computer and the offline defragmentation should run. If you can see everything correctly, do the following after Windows is loaded:

- close O&O Defrag if it was open

- delete the file C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\oobctm.sys

- create a file in this folder with notepad and name it "oobctm.sys"

(please take care that the file extensions are correct and are not hidden by Windows explorer)

- open O&O Defrag, it should not install the driver again

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Just because the screen is scambled does not mean the offline defrag is not running.. it is, you just can not see the screen. There is no input involved and it runs automatically anyway.

You can just let it do it work and when finished it will boot into Windows. You do not have to stop the system if the screen is garbled and you should NEVER stop such a defrag by hitting the power button on the tower or you can corrupt the OS
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Re: First Custom FSX build

Postby G1000Pilot » Sat May 30, 2009 10:42 am

heatsink installed!

OS optimized

OO Defrag will be throughout today, if my drivers dont match I will just let it run and do its thing knowing it may appear weird.

The only things I have not installed our my flight yoke/pedals because they are not here yet, should I just do the FSX HD and wait for the yoke/pedals to come to do the OS drive?

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Re: First Custom FSX build

Postby G1000Pilot » Sat May 30, 2009 11:01 am

also, I am not doing any FSX tuning or .cfg edits until after OO defrag. I just wanted to confirm this.
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Re: First Custom FSX build

Postby NickN » Sat May 30, 2009 11:39 am

also, I am not doing any FSX tuning or .cfg edits until after OO defrag. I just wanted to confirm this.



that is correct.. after the defrag passes (reboot between them and reboot after the last pass) then comes FSX tuning... in that process you check for stability and take care of any issues that may come up. This is also when you may discover a driver or addon problem or other nit-pick issue that needs to be addressed.

then after all that is locked down.,.. clocking

and last FSX trim tuning

you can add your controllers at anytime..


Since you now have the new HS installed lets get preped for clocking, download RealTemp 3.0 or above from here

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/13 ... p_3.00.zip

Unzip and place the folder somewhere on the system where it can reside all the time, them make a shortcut to the desktop for Realtemp.exe.

When the program is run, in the settings area, Click SET TJMAX and then set the TJMAX to 100c for all 4 cores, click apply. The true MAX temp of i7 is 100c which you never want to get close to or exceed (proc death above 100) however at 80c the proc begins shutting itself down in a protection mode. The goal when we clock will be to obtain the highest CPU speed on the lowest CPU voltage, stable, without going over 80c in a full 1hour load test.

On the GUI you will see CPU diode temp and how far it has to go before it hits the max

When we load test for clocking you will use this software which you can download and install:

http://www.ocbase.com/perestroika_en/index.php?Download

get the auto installer there

After OCCT is installed, in its properties set the MAX TEMP to 80c. That will mean the test will automatically fail if you are unstable or if you hit 80c.

The ONLY test that will be used in that software is the automatic 1hr CPU stress test

You are now ready to test for your high clock when we get to that point.
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