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Re: How would this build do?

Postby Fozzer » Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:35 am

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Re: How would this build do?

Postby Slotback » Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:39 am

DazzleStar,

1. Get an Nvidia 9800GT. The 9800GT is 4 times as fast for about the same $$$. Some models need a single 6pin PCI-E connector, some don't. Factor this into your PSU.

2. Make sure to overclock everything. Or, at least, plan for it in the future.

3. DDR2 is not always cheaper. I honestly don't know what's better.

4. Get a higher clocked dual core for FS2004. Quad Core for FSX.

The only thing im thinking now is to get or a 8800 gt or the 8800 gtx ($ is also short), and get a unicore 3.6 ghz (since fs9 dont use the dual), i guess i will have better results than the dual at 2.8 ghz.

757200ba,


1. Look at 9800GT. Rebranded 8800GT but easier to find.
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Re: How would this build do?

Postby Fozzer » Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:41 am

....^^^^^^....

Remember.... ;)....

He's 15 years old, still at School....

...and doesn't have any money!... ;)...!

I tend to start from there!... ;D...!

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Re: How would this build do?

Postby Slotback » Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:44 am

9800GT should not be much more than
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Re: How would this build do?

Postby 757200ba » Sun Nov 29, 2009 12:43 pm

Well once again i get to the conclusion that there are lots of OBI ONES to help.
Thank you for the posts (Fozzer and NN), i will try to get the 9800gt, my PSU is a 400w one so i really need to get at least a 600mhz.
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Re: How would this build do?

Postby DazzleStar » Sun Nov 29, 2009 2:38 pm

I had a bit of a revision after reading this and around, and came up with something a little more like this: http://www.lambda-tek.com/computing/pcdesigner.pl?cart=%0ACPU%09B246260%091%0AMOTHERBOARD%09B237835%091%0ACASE%09B102636%091%0APSU%09B239723%091%0AHDD%09B70795%091%0ADISC%09B91309%091%0AGRAPHICSCARD%09B238862%091%0AMEMORY%091559035%092%0A. Its a bit more expensive, but I'm sure that if I shopped around I could find things cheaper. What do you think? Thanks.
My specs:
Dell Dimension 2400
2.66GHz Pentium 4
NVIDIA GeForce 6200 256mb
1gb DDR memory
80gb Seagate hard drive
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Re: How would this build do?

Postby The Snake 87 » Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:25 pm

For the 9800GT, remember that you will need a PSU above 400 watts minimum.
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Re: How would this build do?

Postby Fozzer » Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:54 am

For the 9800GT, remember that you will need a PSU above 400 watts minimum.


Definitely...

The more you load up your System with the latest goodies, the larger your Power Supply needs to be for stability and reliability....

...and they don't come cheap, for good quality!... :'(...!

My 700 Watt Storm PSU cost me well over
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Re: How would this build do?

Postby DazzleStar » Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:36 pm

I have to say PSU is the thing I am worried about. I'm planning to have eventually 2 hard drives, 2 optical drives, 5 fans, and quite a highly overclocked system, so I'm really not sure what to get and how much to spend. Maybe a really barebones system of higher quality is what I should be going for.
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Re: How would this build do?

Postby 757200ba » Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:34 pm

Well i agree with the psu.
News!! I just got a 8800 gt oc2 512.I guess it will improve my contraption.My dedicated machine just has 2 HD, the video card a zalman 9700and 1 12'fan. I guess the 400w it will hold for now?
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Re: How would this build do?

Postby Slotback » Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:46 am

1. Remember that different components in a computer run a different voltages. Most modern computers (and power supplies) run mostly at 12 volts. Therefore the most important specification is the +12v power (or current) rating not the combined power (aka wattage). For example, if you had a power supply that was 100000 watt but only outputted that at 3.3 volts, then you are doomed because a modern PC runs mostly at 12 volts.

2. It also depends on the power supply manufacturer. Different power supplies are rated in different conditions. For example, some manufacturers use peak output as their wattage rating, rather than continuous. Thermaltake, for example, rate their power supplies at peak rating, which is the peak it can deliver - if you ran it at that rating continuously it would overheat. Different power supplies are also rated at different temperatures, some at an unrealistic 20 degrees, others at 40 or even 50 degrees. We have a brand in Australia known as SHAW. They go up in smoke (literally) when pushed to about 50% of the rated "power".

3. Power supplies also vary in power distribution, efficiency, power quality, build quality, safety features, modularness and noise.


Point is, don't buy generic crap. A 650 watt SHAW will probably catch on fire and take out your system. While a 450 watt CORSAIR might be able to power both of your systems at once.

If you only give me wattage then OK, 400 watt is probably enough. However, I cannot guarantee if it will work.

Here are the only brands I would ever spend my money on:
Seasonic
Corsair
PC POWER & COOLING
Antec (SOME units - read reviews)
Coolermaster (SOME units - read reviews)
Thermaltake (SOME units - read reviews)
OCZ (SOME units - read reviews
Silverstone

Get one with a SINGLE fan, preferably 120mm.

If you want a cheap power supply that's also decent look into the above and also the Coolermaster eXtreme Power Plus 460W (WITH 120mm fan, some are 80mm and apparently sound like jet engines).

Never heard of "TRUST" before, and it has two fans instead of one. Unless you can find a (positive review) on a (well-known) hardware website, then I'm going to have to say that it's generic crap. Go for the OCZ Fatality 550 watt for like 2$ more.

As an example, the higher end Seasonic units are rated continuous at 50 degrees, are extremely efficient, are extremely quiet (silent at some loads), supply very high quality power (for stability), and are modular. They don't slap these high price tags on for nothing.
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Re: How would this build do?

Postby 757200ba » Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:12 pm

Hi NNNG, i got this one. Tigerdirect.

http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/p ... eries_550w

I guess it will be ok.What you think of the 8800 gt oc2?
I read several reviews, and its a good card. At least better than the ATI 4350 1gb i have now, i just hope i see a good increase on performance.
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Re: How would this build do?

Postby Slotback » Fri Dec 04, 2009 5:59 am

That PSU is good.


And that card should be good also.
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