Graphics card Mem Q

[Mazza]

Okay, On graphics card the ATi Asus HD4670 is a fine card, for $120 it's a very good budget model, But on the box it says 512MB of RAM on it. But in my CCC it says I have 1Gb and it also says that in several other sources. So is there a failsafe way to tell if it 1Gb, because if it is they screwed up and I got 512Mb Extra for free

[NickN]

The card comes with 512 or 1GB

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLi ... rchInDesc=

It is possible the drivers are screwed up and reading it wrong.. or, they are a run of missboxed cards.

[Mazza]

Yes, but do you know of a way to tell if it 1Gb?

[NickN]

Heres the deal..

If there is some kind of glitch in the card it is possible it is reporting the wrong memory amount so even low level tools may not read it correctly

Try GPUz first http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/SysInfo/GPU-Z/

check the memory amount

Another way to sleuth out the amount is look at the usage using MemStatus. FSX by default will try to consume 512MB during use if the card has at least 512.

If a user adds a bufferpool amount to their FSX.cfg file FSX will reserve that amount over and above 512 so a readout of memory use during FSX use with a (in example) 35MB Bufferpool reserve should show about 530MB used.

If it does not exceed 512 or FSX crashes then the card is 512 if it does exceed 512 and FSX runs, even with some graphic errors, then the card is 1GB

The tool may not work in Vista

http://nuclearplayground.com/NuclearPlayground
MemStatus

[Maverick6901]

Okay, On graphics card the ATi Asus HD4670 is a fine card, for $120 it's a very good budget model, But on the box it says 512MB of RAM on it. But in my CCC it says I have 1Gb and it also says that in several other sources. So is there a failsafe way to tell if it 1Gb, because if it is they screwed up and I got 512Mb Extra for free

You're tellin me that Catalyst Control Center is reporting 1 GB??

[NickN]

[quote]

Option #3:

[Maverick6901]

If the BIOS of the card is reporting the wrong amount I dont care what tool is used to read the card.. DX or any other.. it will read incorrect.

Well that's your opinion and although you may deem yourself qualified (based on what expertise, I don't really know) but IMHO, you'd be doing a disservice to Mazza by not suggesting that he cross check the information produced by CCC using some alternative tools.

And really Nick, what harm is there?

[NickN]

Maverick


I did not say it would not be of use to check .. what I said is if his Vcard BIOS is reporting the incorrect memory no Windows tool will show it correctly

how are you going to verify his Vcard or system BIOS? Have you looked at his system?

DX could say 512 and others say 1GB.. or the opposite,.. do you know why that could be?

I do

The chipset register of the system BIOS may not be working correctly with this card and that too can cause 1, 2 or even 3 different readouts to conflict.

The initial suggestion of using bufferpools and the tool I posted (drop to the desktop to check while FSX is running) would have resolved that without pulling the card. If he read above 512MB there is no question that the card has >512 because that tool reads the data sent from system memory to Vmem and bypasses the card and system BIOS which was one of the reasons it was not working in Vista when it was initially released and why it has a bug whereby >2GB of system memory caused incorrect values to display.

I verified the tool posted was corrected and updated for Vista use, something I was not aware of at the time of my initial post.

Regardless I said your suggestion of checking the chips is the most secure method of establishing the memory amount however I also said it needed a bit of refining so he did not assume something that was not true from the suggestion you made of counting chips. They need to be verified by ID number, not # of chips on the PCB

Although you may have some knowledge so far what I have seen is your suggestions are amateur at best Maverick and you have a lot to learn. 1/2 arse suggestions with a 'know it all' ego are dangerous.

http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2 ... 801474/3#3

no question?

[T1MT1M]

Nick: 3
Maverick: 0

[NickN]

Nick: 3
Maverick: 0

Although I get the joke that is really not necessary


There is no score involved here and this forum should not be considered a place of 'tech knowledge' competition however when I see incompetence with an attitude I do take notice and I will make sure it does not cause someone to make the same simplistic and costly mistakes the person soliciting such advice probably makes day in and day out.

Which is why this was posted at the top of this forum years ago

http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2 ... 1165332791




It is the responsibility of the person reading these forums to take caution in what they read and not assume what they read is accurate, or, not assume what they read is complete with everything they need to know in one post. Not many people around here have the real credentials to give out secure CS advice.

But anyone giving out advice should also assume the responsibility of informing the person they are trying to help that they are not an expert and that there may be things they wish to check out further before taking steps that may end up being costly.[b] ie; Suggest buying a mismatched PCIe protocol video card and insist that it will work without question and with a tone in the post that suggests the advice is from

[Maverick6901]

your suggestions are amateur at best Maverick and your suggestions are amateur at best Maverick and you have a lot to learn. 1/2 arse suggestions with a 'know it all' ego are dangerous.

Really and here I was thinking I was just horrible.  Atleast I'm not too far off the mark.  I got "1/2 arse"....... hmm... let me know when i get 3/4 of the way there.

your suggestions are amateur at best Maverick and your suggestions are amateur at best Maverick.

Only amateur?  Well the best "amateurs" I know are usually the ones sitting at home typing out 20 paragraph responses _rants_ like the one you've typed out in the last 2 posts.

Go back and read what I posted to you again. You had absolutely no basis for addressing me the way you have here other than what appears to be a childish ego problem.

as far as I am concerned, this is our last communication

So very mature of you Nick.

[NickN]

"HOW DARE ANY_ONE speak otherwise or offer a different viewpoint."  

Different viewpoint?

lets review that...


You mean the viewpoint someone should buy a video card not designed for their motherboard slot and there is no question it will work?

You mean the viewpoint that counting the chips on the back of a video card will tell you how much memory it has?

You mean the viewpoint that looking at a DX readout or other tools will define the hardware installed when the box says different?

You mean the viewpoint that a multirail PSU is better in any way to a single?


and...

You mean the viewpoint someone needs to buy a processor they already have?







No rant Mav, just making sure everyone here understands your advice is very dangeous, at best


I suggest you stick to your studies and leave CS to people who know what they are talking about

[Maverick6901]

No rant Mav, just making sure everyone here understands your advice is very dangeous, at best

I suggest you stick to your studies and leave CS to people who know what they are talking about

Again... God complex....

[NickN]

I have not insuled you with a personal attack however at this point you have me

Lets try this again.. you are about 1 post away from being gone based on SimV rules. I suggest you make use of that post and keep it as far away from me as possible.

[Maverick6901]

I have not insuled you however at this point you have me

Oh play the innocent card shall we?  Try this on for size buddy.

NickN:
your suggestions are amateur at best Maverick

NickN:
1/2 arse suggestions with a 'know it all' ego are dangerous.

NickN:
I suggest you stick to your studies and leave CS to people who know what they are talking about

Lets try this again.. you are about 1 post away from being gone based on SimV rules. I suggest you make use of that post and keep it as far away from me as possible.

I'm not really interested in your threats and insults Nick.  Like I've said before I've seen much worse.