2009 is NOT my year

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Re: 2009 is NOT my year

Postby NickN » Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:59 pm

[quote] at least I come up with *unusual* problems!
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Re: 2009 is NOT my year

Postby NickN » Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:07 pm

I have run into the 'big' card not sitting in the slot strait a few times... even with my experience in installing this stuff that problem is easy to miss.

What I do now is take a pencil (or fine line sharpie is better.. but if it goes back it needs to be cleaned off with solvent) and with a small square draw a strait line above the contacts making sure it is 100% parallel to the edge of the contact lip then after installing I look at the line in reference to the slot edge.. .if I see any deviation I know its not in strait and it does not take much on some motherboards.

The last card I put in I had to slightly bend the receiver tang that slips into the tower hardware guide after discovering a problem some weeks later. The pressure from the tang not being in 100% alignment with the tower reciever would cause the forward edge of the card to slip out of the slot.. over time


I thought I trashed a card in a overclock and thats when I discovered the move had taken place and realized the tower construction being a touch tweaked from square made the card slip
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Re: 2009 is NOT my year

Postby vgbaron » Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:41 pm

I'll check the seating out tonight b4 I swap it. Thinking about the monitor click - altho they are not connected, the HAnns-G monitor has built in speakers. Wonder if that click might be an electrical pop from the speakers.

Altho it sounds exactly like the click from the old CRT's when they changed modes.

Further testing tonight.

1) check card seated in slot correctly
2) disable memory map
3) switch monitors
4) switch vid cards
5) have a drink or three
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Re: 2009 is NOT my year

Postby NickN » Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:48 pm

#5 is spot on

I would do that regardless of the outcome
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Re: 2009 is NOT my year

Postby vgbaron » Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:56 pm


#5 is spot on

I would do that regardless of the outcome




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Re: 2009 is NOT my year

Postby vgbaron » Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:17 pm

Well, at least the drinks were useful.  Unfortunately, swapping monitors, memory remap disabling and swapping video cards produced the same results. Only thing different with the 8800GTS was no clicking monitors. Ran fine at 3.6 - ugly colors and system hang at 4.06.

I'll try a few of the suggestions you mentioned above and if they do not work, think I'll try kicking up the FSB from 400 to 430 and see what happens.

Problem in my mind about going back to XP32 is that I never ran 3DMark on Xp32 at 4.06 so I don't really know for sure if XP64 is the problem or not.

I would hate to go through all the reinstall crap and be in the same place. ::)

Going to try and get this rig as high as I can 3DMark stable and leave it there for a while.

Noticed TigerDirect had this:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications ... 0x58%20965

looks like prices are coming down. ;)
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Re: 2009 is NOT my year

Postby vgbaron » Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:55 pm

ok - raised Vtt to 1.31 and dropped GTL to -45. FSB at 430. Seems stable in OCCT *AND* 3DMark is 19900.

Question: Memory is at 1721 8-8-8-24-2T. Can I tighten this up or would it not be worth it. 1600 7-7-7-20 worked fine as did 1800 8-8-8-24
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Re: 2009 is NOT my year

Postby NickN » Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:11 pm

Back up

Are you saying 1800
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Re: 2009 is NOT my year

Postby vgbaron » Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:32 pm

[quote]Back up

Are you saying 1800
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Re: 2009 is NOT my year

Postby NickN » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:11 am

LOL - to me -45 is lower than -40.

actually to me it is too... that was the Bacardi talking.. yes, I followed your list, and then some


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Re: 2009 is NOT my year

Postby NickN » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:23 am

If that fails.. then set back to 8-8-8 and start nudging FSB up 2FSB at a time

When you find the unstable spot (in example 238) back it down 4Mhz and that should be the high note.. you can try adding in a touch of VTT or NB and see if the instabilty firms up but if it doesnt, just back it down and lock it.. remember it may still show unstable in FSX, you know how that works so if it is, back it down till its stable in FSX too.

The only thing you can do now is to raise FSB
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Re: 2009 is NOT my year

Postby NickN » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:25 am

8-8-8-24-1T PL6 or 7-7-7-20-2T pl7 - is one significantly better?


Whn you combine BOTH 1T and PL6, you are better off on 8-8-8, if you lose PL6 @ 8-8-8 you are better off on 7-7-7 and get lower PL back

1T is always the last item.. give up 1T to keep lower PL

If both not possible then lower CAS
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Re: 2009 is NOT my year

Postby vgbaron » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:55 am

If that fails.. then set back to 8-8-8 and start nudging FSB up 2FSB at a time

When you find the unstable spot (in example 238) back it down 4Mhz and that should be the high note.. you can try adding in a touch of VTT or NB and see if the instabilty firms up but if it doesnt, just back it down and lock it.. remember it may still show unstable in FSX, you know how that works so if it is, back it down till its stable in FSX too.

The only thing you can do now is to raise FSB



Geting close -

430 1721 8-8-8-24-1t PL6 Vtt1.35 -45 +60 nb1.55

OCCT stable - 3DMark stable

Flew FSX for about 35 minutes doing lots of aerobatics in LA basin - lots of terrain rolling by etc - just as I was landing - graphics went garbage - coarse and green almost stick figures - hit alt-enter to get into fullscreen and graphics cleared up -landed with no issue or other graphic anomaly.

How high can I go on Vtt? NB can go to 1.6?

If that doesn't clear it up - I'll drop fsb a tad.

Goping to knock off for the night - Glenfiddich & Amaretto on the rocks catching up.
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Re: 2009 is NOT my year

Postby NickN » Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:14 am

So the system did not lock.. you just saw strange graphics?

Make sure you are not clocking the video card too high too Vic... It can cause things to go bonkers


Was the card clocked when this happened?

Do you have bufferpools set in the FSX.cfg? If so, that can be the reason for the glitch.. remove the entry completely and try again


If the same problem comes up and the card is not clocked, bufferpools is not in the config then we can say its probably right on the edge of stability.

Let me think about VTT before going further.. Im wiped and I probably should not be making suggestions around that right now anyway. I know what I would do but thats not my system   LOL

Dont push it any higher on VTT till I look at this again tomorrow morning
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Re: 2009 is NOT my year

Postby vgbaron » Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:49 am

I bought the BFG GTX280 OC2 which is factory overclocked - I've done nothin to it.

System did not lock up, sound was fine, just graphics turned coarse green and blue.

Bufferpools is set at 70000000 ( 1M card )

Ive called it a night - hope your flu is easing up - I've still got a lingering cough but feel ok.
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