2009 is NOT my year

[vgbaron]

thought I'd try FSX - it supposed to start in 3D - minute I clicked flynow - BSOD system exception win32K.sys

[NickN]

Vic

I just dont get it

Everything in GTL's both CPU and NB should be correct along with VTT and NB voltage @ 1.55 also seems right

SPREAD SPECTRUMS in the BIOS also must be disabled too but I can not see those causeing 3D glitches

If OCCT is remaining stable and this it only tied to 3D something strange is going on. I know stability in 3D can be borked during use (like crashes in FSX but it flys for a

[NickN]

as for downgrading a Asus BIOS you may have problems with that...

if it wont accept a biod downgrade in the FLASH tool you may need to try it in Windows using the Asus Update tool instead

I know your board have the emergency BIOS backup so you should not have any problems in the event of a bad flash..

If you do downgrade make sure you power down, unplug, clear CMOS.. plug in, power up and enter the BIOS... EXIT menu.. load setup defaults F10-save and exit.. reboot back into the BIOS and you may not have any profiles and have to reset it all back up manually

dont forget AHCI and all the settings .. if its still borked, I am at a complete loss to understand why

The only other option would be to revert back to x32 and start over

like you really want to hear that

[vgbaron]

On a hunch - I dropped back to 400x9 and redownloaded the DX9.0c update. Ran 3DM and still got a few clicks from the monitor but it completed without problem and the score was 18520 as opposed to 14917 before the update. Framerates were in the 100's as opposed to 60's.

Raised clock back to 450x9 - 3DM locked up.

I'll try your other suggestions and see what happens.

[NickN]

you must have the latest DirectX update installed or 3DM and FSX wont run right.. I thought you already got that but I guess when you said "Windows Updates" you just meant the updates from MS for the OS alone

see the list

http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_p ... ?TID=29041

make sure you have any and all 3DM updates too

[vgbaron]

flashed down to 0901 - same problem - does NOT like 3d at the 450 clock.

400 clock - all seems fine.

The card is clocked by the mfgr - I made no changes.

The clicking from the monitor is puzzling - I have never heard that before.

If it stays stable at 3.6 I'll bite the bulklket and leave it alone unless I get a brilliant idea. Don't want to throw more $$ at the problem. Might as well save the cash for the I7's down the road.

IIRC, you mentioned that the first releases of XP64 that had sp2 applied after the fact had 3D issues. This was a MS disk with sp2 on it already but the similarity bothers me.

If I get creative in the next few days, I may pop the 280 out and the 8800 in and see if the problem continues. Too pooped to do that tonight.

[vgbaron]

you must have the latest DirectX update installed or 3DM and FSX wont run right.. I thought you already got that but I guess when you said "Windows Updates" you just meant the updates from MS for the OS alone

see the list

http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_p ... ?TID=29041

make sure you have any and all 3DM updates too

No, I followed that list. Went to the MS dx site for the download.

[NickN]

you must have the latest DirectX update installed or 3DM and FSX wont run right.. I thought you already got that but I guess when you said "Windows Updates" you just meant the updates from MS for the OS alone

see the list

http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_p ... ?TID=29041

make sure you have any and all 3DM updates too

No, I followed that list. Went to the MS dx site for the download.

alright

I will think it over and post if I get any bright ideas but this just does not make sense.. x64 is more stable than x32, always has been

Im really at a loss

I do know there were a few of these boards reported to have a defect where the heatsink rail lifted off the NB due to a cap placement

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpo ... tcount=163



memory goes in the white slots and I am sure that is where it is..

It just does not ring right.. the voltage are right and with the exception of NB you should not need to set anything different

I have never seen a Q9650 need a VTT of more than 1.30, 1.28 is the norm but I have seen a few clockers claim they had to raise it to 1.35. If you did that, the 4 CPU GTL's would need to be -43.199mv (rounded to the highest value the BIOS allows, probably -45mv

If there was no change I just can not see that being the target area of the problem


Im just about farting in the wind at this point

lol

[NickN]

Just for farts and giggles

CPU PLL set to 1.5v... correct?  

[vgbaron]

yup - pll is 1.51106

going to call it a night and unwind. getting brain cramps  

[NickN]

I dont get it Vic

Go back up and use what I posted to fart around and check things when you are ready

If your NB is not getting near 60c I cant see the rail as a problem either

[NickN]

Make sure your PL is not too low too


and to be quite honest..

[vgbaron]

agreed. I want to swap vid cards tho and see what happens - if the 8800 works then it would make sense that the 280 has a problem with something. At least it would give me something to talk to BFG about.

Hopefully I can get to it tomorrow night.

Also need to include 3DMark in my stability tests from now on.  :)

[vgbaron]

I dont get it Vic

Go back up and use what I posted to fart around and check things when you are ready

If your NB is not getting near 60c I cant see the rail as a problem either

Will do.

[vgbaron]

Just a followup - spoke to Hanns-G (monitor mfgr) and BFG (GTX280) about the problem and the clicking noise from the monitor. Neither had ever heard of the issue with the clicking. Both were really puzzled by it.

Discussed prob at length with BFG tech and he thinks it could be a video ram issue, however, tonight I'm going to swap the 280 with my old 8800GTS and see what happens. If it runs OK, I'll RMA the 280.

As I said, at least I come up with *unusual* problems!