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Re: I'm beginning to get REALLY annoyed

Postby vgbaron » Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:39 pm


welll you know what... I would rather smack you in the face now than later when I see a thread entitled

"WTF??? NOW MY SYSTEM WONT RUN 3D STABLE?????"


;D


Already had that queued up in my clipboard, dang!  :)
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Re: I'm beginning to get REALLY annoyed

Postby NickN » Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:11 pm

I'M AT MY WITS END.. NOT AGAIN!  Image


I BOUGHT CUTTING EDGE AND I AM ABOUT TO CUT MY WRISTS! Image


HOW MANY THINGS CAN GO WRONG WHEN I WANT TO PLAY! Image


I DONT KNOW SQUAT ABOUT IT BUT ITS PISSING ME OFF!




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i7 HERE I COME.. SCREW INTEL PQUAD  Image






go ahead.. erase them ...
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Re: I'm beginning to get REALLY annoyed

Postby vgbaron » Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:42 am

;D As usual!!


Got the slipstream done and reinstall seemed to go ok. Got mobo drivers and windows updates. So far so good.

Only problem so far is that system will not power down. OS shuts down, screen blanks but system is still powered. Not in sleep or suspend - only option is to manually shut it down.

Device mgr shows nothing unusual. Nothing in event viewer.
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Re: I'm beginning to get REALLY annoyed

Postby NickN » Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:55 am

It goes through the entire shutdown process,.. Windows sign-off, music.. monitor shuts down, but the tower stays on?
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Re: I'm beginning to get REALLY annoyed

Postby vgbaron » Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:57 am

Yes, except it does shut down the HDD's - buit all case fans, memory fans, led's etc are on.

Checked the power settings in CP and it's set as desktop, 15 min shutdown on monitor and never on HDD's.

Tried diff BIOS settings - AUto/S1&S3/S3 - no diff.

Puzzling as it worked fine in 32. Must be some dumb software setting I'm missing.

Possible the slipstream had a glitch. Date on CD was 6/06.

Think I'll order the newegg cd JIC - can always use it.
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Re: I'm beginning to get REALLY annoyed

Postby NickN » Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:21 am

Hmmmmmm

That is strange

It sounds like a BIOS. not Windows setting however I would make sure  Windows is set to Always On, and Hibernate is disabled.

Also, in Winodws.. check to see what is set for the POWER BUTTON feature in the power properties - advanced tab

Make sure the power button is set to SHUT DOWN and sleep is set to DO NOTHING

In the BIOS:

note: i'm typing these from memory so they may not be exactly the same

Power

Suspend Mode [Auto]
Repost Video on S3 Resume [Disabled]
ACPI 2.0 Support [Disabled] //ENABLED for older PCI cards
ACPI APIC Support [Enabled]


APM Configuration

Restore on AC Power Loss [Power Off]
Power On By RTC Alarm [Disabled]
Power On By External Modems [Disabled]
Power On By PCI Devices [Disabled]
Power On By PCIE Devices [Disabled]
Power On By PS/2 Keyboard [Disabled]


I do use Qfan control under the hardware monitor with Speedfan in Windows to control fan speeds

CPU Q-Fan Control [Enabled]

CPU Fan Profile [Performance]

Chassis Q-Fan Control [Enabled]

Chassis Fan Ratio [80%] //too low may cause problems

Chassis Target Temperature [34
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Re: I'm beginning to get REALLY annoyed

Postby NickN » Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:24 am

what BIOS is that new board?




Rampage Extreme 1003 Bios
Fix can't show correct Chassis Fan speed if the Fan speed is too low


Rampage Extreme 0901 Bios
Fix if use 2 pieces of HD4870X2 to build CrossfireX it may get no display from the VGA card which is inserted in the PCI-E X16_1 slot


I take it you did update the chipset drivers from Intel too
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Re: I'm beginning to get REALLY annoyed

Postby vgbaron » Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:47 am

0901 - heard they were having troubles with 1003.

Updated chipset.

XP64 usenet group had a headsup - something about Fast User Switching being hidden when using Classic menus. I usually turn it off but in this case the option was greyed out. I'll reset the windows to XP normal and see what happens.

Other thing I didn't try was a quick push of the power button to see if system 'returns'.
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Re: I'm beginning to get REALLY annoyed

Postby vgbaron » Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:19 pm

Interesting. Since I had some spare time, (you remember what that is, correct, Nick?) I reformatted and reinstalled XP32 to test - shutdown occured as expected. My BIOS settings are the same as yours except for Q-fan.

Should have the newegg shipment tomorrow so I'll install XP64 from their cd and see what happens.

Gets curiouser and curiouser [smiley=biglaugh.gif]
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Re: I'm beginning to get REALLY annoyed

Postby NickN » Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:44 am

Since I had some spare time, (you remember what that is, correct, Nick?)




Sure do...

but now a days I pay someone else to take care of my spare time things for me

like the Playboy 55th Anniversary Edition Cessna Mustang 510 I just ordered




http://mustang.flight1.net/forums/forum ... sp?TID=483


http://mustang.flight1.net/cmx_landing.aspx

We got the Cesssna seal of approval on how that aircraft looks, works and flys in the sim. Their engineers say it matches the real world version very close

It has a full Garmin 1000 so the system needs to be a good one to run her. A real Garmin trainier (real pilot Garmin simulation without FSX) will bring a system to its knees and the one in the Mustang is no slouch.. its that real but F1 managed to get a G1000 working dang near perfect in that girl.
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Re: I'm beginning to get REALLY annoyed

Postby vgbaron » Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:13 am

Looks like a fun bird! Think I'll sign up for one. Sooner or later I'll get my system back up and start flying again.

With luck, should be done with the reinstall and software install by Saturday.
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Re: I'm beginning to get REALLY annoyed

Postby vgbaron » Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:16 pm

This probably doesn't belong in hardware any longer but:

did a full format and install of XP64 w/SP2 from Newegg -

System shutdown gets "shutting down message" then mouse cursor freezes, sreen turns blue background ( not bsod), HDD's shut down but all fans, coolers etc remain on. Nothing I tried would wake system. Held power in for 5 seconds to power down.

REALLY strange!
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Re: I'm beginning to get REALLY annoyed

Postby NickN » Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:18 am

This probably doesn't belong in hardware any longer but:

did a full format and install of XP64 w/SP2 from Newegg -

System shutdown gets "shutting down message" then mouse cursor freezes, sreen turns blue background ( not bsod), HDD's shut down but all fans, coolers etc remain on. Nothing I tried would wake system. Held power in for 5 seconds to power down.

REALLY strange!



Hmmmmmm

Do all your Windows updates and see if it persists

The only other thing I can think of is perhaps you may wish to back the clock down before installing Windows. I usually do as a precaution

A hang indicates a process is not terminating


you did ENABLE ACPI in the BIOS and set the BIOS  before you installed Windows, correct?

PLUG AND PLAY OS = YES?

Check this setting

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon]
"PowerDownAfterShutdown"="1"
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Re: I'm beginning to get REALLY annoyed

Postby vgbaron » Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:40 am

after all updates it's back to shutting down the screen and HDD but not the system.

BIOS settings are as you outlined in a post above.

Reg setting is ok

Did the install at 3.6 clock - no problems. Other than shutdown, everything is moving along nicely.

I'll keep digging at it - gotta be some obscure setting that didn't take for some reason.

BTW, ordered the Mustang - won't d/l it until I get FSX back up tho.

If you think of someting else to try on this shutdown thing, let me know - I'll worry at it until I figure it out.
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Re: I'm beginning to get REALLY annoyed

Postby vgbaron » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:45 am

Minor progress - one of the guys in the MS XP64 usenet said he remembered the same thing happening to one system on the beta :) said it was either a video driver or a chipset issue - couldn't recall but will try digging around.

Can't be the NVidia driver bcuz it happened b4 I installed it.

I'll double check I have the latest chipsets but I also tried it b4 installing the chipset drivers.

No matter - topmorrow I install FSX and do some flying!!
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