I'm beginning to get REALLY annoyed

[vgbaron]

OK received the new Rampage Extreme. Installed and powered up. Installed a fresh copy of XP. Rebooted. Installed mobo drivers. rebooted . Started a search for a specific program - after a few minutes - a quick flash of A BSOD and the reboot. Nothing in event viewer.

Using new Corsair 1800 ram with the 9650 - ALL settings at default - figured I'd let the RE set it up initially.

Did I get another dud mobo?

Want to install XP64 when I get it but if the system is unstable at default settings..........

Am I missing something?

[vgbaron]

Starting the new year off with a bad cough - sort of grumpy. Relaxed and tried several more searches - no problems. Possibly was a fluke BSOD.

Might get the xp64 in the mail tomorrow - just going to bite the bullet and do the new install and go from there.

question for Nick -  should I leave all settings at auto until after the install or put in some manual basic settings - no clocking yet.

fwiw, cpu-z says 450x7.5 and Corsair ram at 1800 8-8-8-24-2t

[NickN]

Vic I will look at this tomorrow.. too late to post on it now

You probably will need to make changes to run 1800 stable

NB: 1.45-1.58, VTT: 1.28 and Vcore: 1.28-1.35 and possibly the GTL we discussed however I would leave GTL's on auto unless its not stable

and run the memory at its max rated spec of 2.0v

remember tRD wont be 6... probably 7 and 1T may, or may not be possible on that memory as it depends on the batch

[vgbaron]

No prob - still haven't rec'd xp64 - maybe tomorrow. Just want to have a stable platform for the initial install - then will do the clocking. Since my earlier post, with everything still on auto - have had no problems  but still can't pass OCCT at stock speeds.

Trying to get my head around this - so running the 1800 Corsair at rated speeds w/o clocking the cpu will still require some tweaking right out of the box.

I guess that's why they call it plug n pray.  :)

[NickN]

the memory is not clocked vic.. it will run without clocking it, but you must still clock the FSB/CPU to get to 1800 which means the same settings you were running in the past except 1800 becomes available when you set 450FSB and a 333 STRAP

[vgbaron]

DOH!  I've been looking at the CPUz screen over and over - finally *see* the 450x7.5. So, by putting in the normal 1800 sticks, the auto settings applied a fsb clock on their own to get the 1800.

Learned something today, always thought that when the multiplier was 'fixed' it meant it couldn't be changed. Now  see that it means that the user can't change it but the system can as necessary.

As I said, fighting a bad cough - brain cells aren't hitting all the notes.

OK, so I'll set the voltages a bit but keep it at 3Ghz until I do the XP64 install. Then I'll get back to clocking.

Happy New Year

[vgbaron]

Still puzzled tho - just tried to run SuperPi with everything still at auto - failed instantly with rounding error. Set vcore 1.30  Vtt 1.28  NB 1.5 and Vmem 2.0 - same issue.

Possibility of still having bad hardware or just not set right? Only thing  haven't replaced is the CPU altho I have gotten two bad mobo's in a row before.

Right now all  want is stable at stock speeds so I have  solid base to go from. I feel like I'm chasing  moving target.

[NickN]

did you disable al the CPU advanced crap? CE1, TM Speedstep and anything else on that list?

Did you set the memory timing manually and not Auto?

Assuming you did all that, after getting this error did you do what IU said and import the NB and CPU GTL numbers we worked out for the VTT?

What about running 1600? Last I heard you were getting errors at 1800 and 1600 ... What about 1600 7-7-7 20? @ 400MHZ?



Yep.. you may have a defective CPU.. not sure but the bottom line is you do need to work this and we know the Mushkin Memory was stable at 1600 in which you posted it would not run either before you RMA'd the board

what about that? .. go back to the thread where we worked out the Mushkin clock and make sure you are using the same settings.. the GTL numbers as I recall were posted in the last 2 pages somewhere.

If the mushies are still unstable then sumthin aint right

[vgbaron]

Think I have to step back, take a deep breath and revisit all the work we did prior and set everything except the GTL.



I'll try the mushkins at 1600 and see what cracks. 400x9

[vgbaron]

setup the mush at 400x9  1600 7-7-7-20 1T PL6 - super pi fine

currently running OCCT and it didn't reboot or bsod instantly as before.

Maybe the HW is fine - user error as usual.  :)

In the old days you could just slam the parts together and if you didn't have a short - everything worked out of the box. I think that's where my mindset was at. Forgot that with the pro type boards there's not really a "default" setting - gotta do it manually.

Assuming this setup is stable, I'l use it for the xp64 install - make sure that's set up properly. Then try the Corsair 1800 at 450x9.

Who says you're to old to learn

BTW Nick - with all the other accolades you have gotten for your work, I hope someone has lauded your patience.

I would love to be a fly on the wall and hear your comments when reading messages.

[NickN]

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING NOW???


you mean things like that?  

or did you want me to include the 3-10 colorful metaphors which usually come with it?


LOL!!


no worries


just kidding

[vgbaron]

HAH! you ought to hear the things

[NickN]

It wont matter when the time comes what you set first.

The only thing you may need to deal with at higher memclock is GTL's and NB voiltage. Everything else should be the same since the CPU speed remains a constant hoever I have seen times when a touch more Vcore is needed.

I would simply start by manually setting the FSB, memspeed, mem timing, DRAM voltage and see what happens

If it fails add in a touch of NB and retry.. then GTL.. if stable start dropping NB to find lowest, if not then try a bit of Vcore

You have to work it but you really should not have that much trouble. I would think with the Corsair product it will all be in NB voltage

Usually those Corsair sticks do need the full 2v although you can try trimming that back and see if its stable, last

[vgbaron]

well, the xp64 didn't come in the mail so it'll probably be Monday night before I can get to it. Couple of days off - time to double check all my serials and preps are in order.

[NickN]

I dont see any reason why you cant go ahead and install the Corsair product and work out the setup now

Waiting is not going to change how the memory may or may not work.