Looking for the Best....

[NickN]

What I mean is, is it really that good to justify a massive price increase if you're using a nonoverclocked system?

Also, would there be much of a diferance between 2x1gb DDR2-800 4-4-4-12, and 2x2gb DDR2-1066 4-4-4-12 with my Q6600 STOCK?

Why would you buy a DDR3 system and not overclock it?

You do realize even with DDR2 and high speed/low latency memory you must enter the BIOS and set it up manually, esentially overclocking it to obtain the speed of the sticks?

So anyone purchasing DDR3 better get use to manually setting up a BIOS regardless of the memory speed cause it ain't gonna boot those numbers on its own. Therefore purchasing the right product and spending the money up front makes for a much happier user, especially with FSX.

The cheeze Kingston DDR3 sticks I used last year for the demo system posted at the top of the forum were 2x1GB Kingston PC3-8500F, Rated 533 MHz/DDR3 1066 @ 7-7-7 20

Those sticks rock at CAS-6 7-6-15 @ tRD 7 DDR3 1440 and if I had not set the system up that way, it would have been no better than a DDR2 533 memory system. They are designed to be DDR3 1333 modules. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820104009


The Asus Rxxxxxx Exxxxx x48 I am on right now is using the sticks I posted @ DDR3 1900

[Slotback]

What I was asking, is if the price increase between 'kids' DDR2 and (any) DDR3 is justified if you're running a stock standard, new computer? The title is 'Looking for the Best....' - so nevermind, I understand now.

You do realize even with DDR2 and high speed/low latency memory you must enter the BIOS and set it up manually, esentially overclocking it to obtain the speed of the sticks?

That's, erm, pretty obvious - and is nothing like overclocking.

[NickN]

What I was asking, is if the price increase between 'kids' DDR2 and (any) DDR3 is justified if you're running a stock standard, new computer? The title is 'Looking for the Best....' - so nevermind, I understand now.

You do realize even with DDR2 and high speed/low latency memory you must enter the BIOS and set it up manually, esentially overclocking it to obtain the speed of the sticks?

That's, erm, pretty obvious - and is nothing like overclocking.

It most certainly is, if the CPU has a 266 bus and the memory STRAP divider requires a 333 you have no choice but to clock it up to meet memory

Same with the newer motherboards and DDR3.. if the CPU has a 333 (1333 FSB) and the sticks are targeted for 1600 and the new processors, you have to manually raise that in the BIOS and it most certainly does overclock, the CPU and the bus. Granted its not a massive clock but its a clock none the less.

At the same time anything that pushed the default FSB (regardless of STRAP)

[Slotback]

Thanks Nick.

voids your warrantees, completely.. even if its only 20MHz

Only if they find out.  ;D

[rikm12345]

Do these deals seem ok, or are the timings not very good?

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu ... subcat=923

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu ... subcat=923

Thanks

[NickN]

Do these deals seem ok, or are the timings not very good?

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu ... subcat=923

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu ... subcat=923

Thanks

The first one is crap.. the second is the lowest quality you would want to go. Being OCZ I would think they would clock a bit better however at 1333MHZ, if you are not running CAS 6 and about 1400+ you may as well be on DDR2

[rikm12345]

Somehoo, i knew you wur gonna say at jimmy.


Thanks nick  :)

[fighter25]

Nick would this DDR3 work with Nellie?

[NickN]

Nick would this DDR3 work with Nellie?

Yes but no motherboards out there yet will

[fighter25]

Ouch, will those come out just before? All though, before I get a six core, and spend all that money to make it work, I want to see the performance in FSX. And if there will be a big boost. Knowing new tech, if you want to run Nellie when it comes out, you'll be paying a premium.

[machineman9]

Just looking at some benchmarks on google images.

DDR3 (same speed but the timings or whatever are different) gave about a 1FPS increase over DDR2

But, I dont fully understand the DDR bit, and the timings are the same. Do you have any other benchmarks or are there reasons why DDR2 and 3 are performing at about the same level?

[NickN]

Im going to do a no-no and post a link to Avs* and a test of DDR2 memory speed and timing compared to DDR3 memory speed and timing

http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az= ... 7203&page=

follow all 6 parts

You decide


thats why I wont ever be seen around DDR2 again