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New System Finally!

Postby Mobius » Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:54 am

But a few questions first:

1.)  I'm going to upgrade to Vista, but I've heard that you can't use more than 3 GB of RAM with Vista, so would it be worth it to get 4 GB or just get 2 GB for now?

2.) I'm thinking of getting the E6850 processor, but should I consider quad-core instead?

Thanks. :)
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Re: New System Finally!

Postby NickN » Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:53 pm

1. If you get the x64 version it works with 16 terabytes of memory. The 32bit version must be edited by using a command prompt in Vista and run a line of code in order to enable greater than 3G use:

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The maximum that value can go is:

bcdedit /set IncreaseUserVA 3072

Dont set it any higher or you will probably crush the OS address. Even 3072 is really pushing that way too far in my opinion, but try and see. All that can happen is you crash and reboot


that is why I suggested 256 and 128 increments and not bigger jumps

The error you may be seeing is not OOM for the game but OOM for the OS, in which case the original number needs to be lowered to allow more address for the OS itself. The first lower value I would try is:

bcdedit /set IncreaseUserVA 2432

and drop that in increments of 128
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Re: New System Finally!

Postby Mobius » Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:14 pm

Thanks very much Nick, it's greatly appreciated. ;)  The quad I'm looking at is the Q6600, which has a slower clock speed, and a lower FSB speed, but will it still perform better than the E6850?

Thanks again, I'm partially in the dark as to what I'm looking for, so all this help really helps. ;D ;)
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Re: New System Finally!

Postby NickN » Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:22 pm

Vista has critical updates for memory problems and performance. They will be included with SP1 due out in January but you can get them manually before...


http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2 ... 1188591122

Phil and John outlined what is needed in that post
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Re: New System Finally!

Postby NickN » Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:26 pm

[quote]Thanks very much Nick, it's greatly appreciated. ;)
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Re: New System Finally!

Postby Mobius » Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:43 pm

Thanks again Nick. :)
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Re: New System Finally!

Postby NickN » Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:44 pm

Withthe E6850 you get a 4MB L2 cache and 1333FSB

With the Q6600 you get a 8MB L2 cache and 1066

bump the FSB up in the BIOS so the strap runs the Q6600 @ 1333 and you get the L2 and the FSB


The difference is the GHz stock rating. If you bump the FSB up to 1333 the Q6600 is running just over 3GHz

Its apples to apples. It depends on your level of working with a computer.

The major shift in processors will come with the next gen products so the deal is you want to make sure what ever you buy in motherboard support is not money down the drain and can use tomorrows technology.


The majority of the processing in FSX is done on the first 2 cores, the first over anything else. Any cores above 2 get autogen and terrain threads. All AI traffic and other processing is done on the first 2 cores.
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Re: New System Finally!

Postby HugoCampos » Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:57 pm

Withthe E6850 you get a 4MB L2 cache and 1333FSB

With the Q6600 you get a 8MB L2 cache and 1066

bump the FSB up in the BIOS so the strap runs the Q6600 @ 1333 and you get the L2 and the FSB


The difference is the GHz stock rating. If you bump the FSB up to 1333 the Q6600 is running just over 3GHz

Its apples to apples. It depends on your level of working with a computer.

The major shift in processors will come with the next gen products so the deal is you want to make sure what ever you buy in motherboard support is not money down the drain and can use tomorrows technology.


The majority of the processing in FSX is done on the first 2 cores, the first over anything else. Any cores above 2 get autogen and terrain threads. All AI traffic and other processing is done on the first 2 cores.



That's exactly how I'm running my Q6600: FSB 1333 and it's clocked at 2.99. And still with the Zalman 9700 it doesn't get hotter than 45
Intel Q6600 @ 3.2Ghz cooled w/ Zalman 9700
4GB G. Skill DDRII @ 800Mhz
512Mb AMD/ATI HD2900XT
Creative Audigy 2 ZX
Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit
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