Wireless Router Radar.

[Ace_777]

I was wondering is it possible to get an application that lets you see the direction in which a user of a router is?


For example I am using the computer that the router is connected to via ethernet. Can I see where all the other computers are in relation to the router on my pc screen?

Many thanks!

[ctjoyce]

I know that there are methods of tracking people through a network, like which hub / switch /

[jimcooper1]

Then you can hunt them down and kill them.

Cheers
Cameron

Welcome back Cameron... I LOVE your posts!!!

Jim

[ctjoyce]

Feels good to be back Jim.... Feels good to be back.


Cheers
Cameron

[Nick N]

However a triangulation software I believe is just something of hollywood.

It depends on who you work for and what type of access you have, or, how far you are into security based electronic engineering


You can be located, attacked and destroyed in a matter of minutes depending on who wants you

That was hollywood back in the 60's,70,s and the 80's. Today its a different story

[Nick N]

However a triangulation software I believe is just something of hollywood.

It depends on who you work for and what type of access you have, or, how far you are into security based electronic engineering


You can be located, attacked and destroyed in a matter of minutes depending on who wants you

That was hollywood back in the 60's,70,s and the 80's. Today its a different story

If and how fast you can be loacted also depends on the person who secured the transmission. If they are as good as the seeker, finding them at that point becomes very difficult. Rotating 256-512bit digital combinations and frequency splitting so not all data is on one band so to speak, and/or, transmissions are distributed across several repeaters which means the source and signal are very difficult to put back together and trace, makes the cat and mouse game more fun.


If it transmission source and signal is not very secure, you can be terminated in minutes  

[JBaymore]

That was hollywood back in the 60's,70,s and the 80's. Today its a different story

I'm thinkin "Enemy Of The State" here.

[Nick N]

That was hollywood back in the 60's,70,s and the 80's. Today its a different story

I'm thinkin "Enemy Of The State" here.

[Chris_F]

I was wondering is it possible to get an application that lets you see the direction in which a user of a router is?


For example I am using the computer that the router is connected to via ethernet. Can I see where all the other computers are in relation to the router on my pc screen?

Many thanks!

You'll need a directional antenna to do it.  A router knows the signal strength its seeing but not the direction its coming from, and if the router can't tell then you won't be able to tell.  If you had three receivers all of which could see the signal then you could triangulate and get the position.  If you had a directional antenna you could rotate it in a circle and the angle of strongest signal is the direction of the user.  But all of that requires additional hardware (and perhaps software).  So no, there's no way to find a router user with just software.

Think of it like a RWR system on a combat aircraft.  They have directional antennas pointed 360 degrees around the aircraft and can use them to find the direction of hostile AA radars, SAMs, etc.  Takes a lot of very expensive hardware to do it too.

[Chris_F]

It depends on who you work for and what type of access you have, or, how far you are into security based electronic engineering


You can be located, attacked and destroyed in a matter of minutes depending on who wants you

That was hollywood back in the 60's,70,s and the 80's. Today its a different story

Remember the poster wants to find the user of a wireless router using software only.  Sure you can electronically find the router and you'll know the user is somewhere within a couple hundred feet of it, but how do you pinpoint the actual transmission from the user to the router using only software.  The router only knows signal strength, it can't know direction.  If you have two or three routers (calibrated with known sensitivities) you can find a user (or one of two potential sites a user could be) but with only one router you'll never be able to do it.

You can find the general location of any user on the internet with the right software and access.  But you can't find the precise position of a user of a wireless router without some SERIOUS hardware in close proximity to that user.

[Nick N]

It depends on who you work for and what type of access you have, or, how far you are into security based electronic engineering


You can be located, attacked and destroyed in a matter of minutes depending on who wants you

That was hollywood back in the 60's,70,s and the 80's. Today its a different story

But you can't find the precise position of a user of a wireless router without some SERIOUS hardware in close proximity to that user.

Does not require close proximity, unless you are functioning on the level of typical engineering

You can be located and tapped from any where in the world. All that is required is access to the right systems. And I will leave it at that

[john_uk]

I know that there are methods of tracking people through a network, like which hub / switch /  router they are connecting through, but this only works if you are in an office or large LAN. However a triangulation software I believe is just something of hollywood.

The real question is why do you ask? Intruders? If so use a program called Wire Shark to figure out what they are doing on the internet. You can usually get their AIM screen name this way, or their myspace account. Then you can hunt them down and kill them.

Cheers
Cameron

cams back, and as threatening as ever.... if you can get their myspace etc etc.. could you kill myspace tom for me?

[Chris_F]

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Does not require close proximity, unless you are functioning on the level of typical engineering

You can located and tapped from any where in the world. All that is required is access to the right systems. And I will leave it at that

[Nick N]

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Does not require close proximity, unless you are functioning on the level of typical engineering

You can located and tapped from any where in the world. All that is required is access to the right systems. And I will leave it at that

[Nick N]

and by the way, for a solid router location you would use both signal tracking hardware and IP address tracking in a combined software interface to pinpoint and triangulate, not a cheeze antenna rig

An antenna system is way too 70's, 80's and early 90's (or garage) for me      :)