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Postby john_uk » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:34 am

after totaly ignoring everyones advice this time last year. i am starting to regret it, as i totaly shot myself in the foot when i made my current system
what was i thinking

AMD s939 - it was a dead socket back then
PC3200 RAM - that was a smart move  ::)

so now im looking at upgradeing my
motherboard, CPU and RAM

here is what im looking at getting
MOBO
EVGA S775 nForce 650i Ultra ATX A L
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Componen ... ctId=26951
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Re: upgradeing

Postby DizZa » Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:21 am

Don't spend loads of money upgrading to a E6600 and a new mobo that is not THAT much faster than your 4600 x2. Get a Intel P35 motherboard (or something like that) and a Penryn later this year.
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Re: upgradeing

Postby ATI_7500 » Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:25 am

A 6600 kicks a 4600s butt by far.

Either you get your stuff now and overclock or you wait out for the xx50s and the X38. Pair that with a 8800GTS or GTX and voil
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Re: upgradeing

Postby DizZa » Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:24 am

Yes....

But is it worth spending 273 pounds on? I sure wouldn't spend the equivelent of $630 AUD on a new processor and motherboard when my current one can already max out any current game (Excluding broken titles.). John has his 4600 x2 at something like 2.7ghz..... hardly that much slower than a stock E6600 which most new titles are probably designed to be maxed out on. (Though that can be oc'd :D).

Eh... I love legacy hardware.
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Re: upgradeing

Postby john_uk » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:59 pm

Yes....

But is it worth spending 273 pounds on? I sure wouldn't spend the equivelent of $630 AUD on a new processor and motherboard when my current one can already max out any current game (Excluding broken titles.). John has his 4600 x2 at something like 2.7ghz..... hardly that much slower than a stock E6600 which most new titles are probably designed to be maxed out on. (Though that can be oc'd :D).

Eh... I love legacy hardware.


my mobo is crap, and can not hold the overclock very well, so im currently running at stock speeds of 2.4ghz. i occasionaly overclock it  but i get bad temp rises.

i need to do the upgrade as my current system is about as much use as a ripped condom!
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Re: upgradeing

Postby ctjoyce » Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:59 pm

Ide prefer a ASUS P5N32-E SLi board over the EVGA one, and a set of Corsair XMS2 PC2-6400(C4) over the patriot RAM.

As for ZeroTime's comment, an E6600 will take down a 5000+ X2 with ease, and a FX60 overclocked. Remind youself, K8 > Netburst / K8 < Core 2 / K10 < Core 2

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Re: upgradeing

Postby john_uk » Tue Jul 10, 2007 4:04 pm

ok, jsut to say, in now way am i at all interested in SLI so its not a feature im going to use, i will never have the cash for two GPU's so no point, that should wack some price off.

willt those parts come to around the same price cam??
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Re: upgradeing

Postby ctjoyce » Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:22 pm

They will. If you have no intention of ever going SLi though, you may want to look at the Gigabyte GA965P-DQ3 motherboard insted. A Intel 965P very stable chipset, retails for about $110 and has a very simple stupid save yourself from yourself overclocking BIOS.

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Re: upgradeing

Postby GunnerMan » Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:36 pm

Ide prefer a ASUS P5N32-E SLi board over the EVGA one, and a set of Corsair XMS2 PC2-6400(C4) over the patriot RAM.

As for ZeroTime's comment, an E6600 will take down a 5000+ X2 with ease, and a FX60 overclocked. Remind youself, K8 > Netburst / K8 < Core 2 / K10 < Core 2

Cheers
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Well yes a Core2 will own a Socket 939, its an older tech. Like ZeroTime said though it beats the cpu in synthetic benchmarks but in real world performance there really is not such a huge gap. I love having great performance but a cpu that can max any game I play for say 150$ or a cpu that can max anygame I play for 250$ that is better but is kind of unneeded.

Also you have no idea how K10 will perform, AMD is staying pretty quiet over it besides some psuedo benchmarks etc for the most part. We don't know if it's because they are hurting or it is a marketing move. The debate is not wether K10 will beat Core2 im almost sure it will it's if it can combat the Penryn. AMD has made a superior fab going for these k10 cpus it seems thier only problem is they can not get the clocks they were hoping for(but they had parties over good yeilds). I guess it's to be expected though as such a large cyhange always brings it's problems. It's all very funny/fishy. My whole point is don't state something as fact when no one outside of the AMD house has ever been able to use the cpu, therefore no one knows what it's going to do.

Back OT, I say wait a few months for the new fabs to come, Intel has the Penryn etc comming and AMD is kicking off their k10 lineup. You will kick yourself some more if you buy now and have the latest tech for a good 3 months. :P
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Re: upgradeing

Postby DizZa » Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:42 am

Ide prefer a ASUS P5N32-E SLi board over the EVGA one, and a set of Corsair XMS2 PC2-6400(C4) over the patriot RAM.

As for ZeroTime's comment, an E6600 will take down a 5000+ X2 with ease, and a FX60 overclocked. Remind youself, K8 > Netburst / K8 < Core 2 / K10 < Core 2

Cheers
Cameron

No it's:

K8 > Core 2 / K8 < Core 2 / K10 <
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Re: upgradeing

Postby john_uk » Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:55 am

yeh but, the new tech comeing out Q3/Q4 is going to cost double what i have. unless ofcourse it isnt going to be as expensive as im thinking.
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Re: upgradeing

Postby ATI_7500 » Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:50 pm

Get a P5W.

It's still better than the newer P35s.
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Re: upgradeing

Postby john_uk » Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:47 pm

i dnt no if i made this clear in my initial post but

what im looking for is something that i will be able to upgrade the components on later. as at the moment my mobo is full of dead tech (s939, PC3200 RAM)

im looking for a mobo i can put a e6600 in now, and then later put in a penryn in, also is DDR2 ram going to be around for much longer or will it soon be all DD3 (or whatever its called)

this time, i am not intending on shooting myself in the foot!
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Re: upgradeing

Postby GunnerMan » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:07 pm

You don't want to shoot yourself thats why I said wait for new tech, the current tech is about 3 month away from beeing obsolete. Now I guess the Core2 craze has gotten ahold of your nickers so if you buy a good 775 mobo you will be good for good while longer because I think Intel is still sticking with that socket for now.

Just remeber whatever you buy will be "outdated' fast. It's the way this undustry rolls you either keep up or get left behind. If you buy the best now it wont be for long. To stay on top of the curve one must upgrade his system as much as one can. Keep your system evolving that way you don't need to buy a whole new every few years and spend 2 of those years in gaming missery.
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Re: upgradeing

Postby DizZa » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:30 pm

And that's why I recommended you a P35 which supports Penryn and DDR3.
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