ATI R600 Video Leaked

[Nick N]

Wanna see what FSX may look like soon?

Nail it while you can.. because this may get pulled

direct download:

http://www.madshrimps.be/vbulletin/redi ... i-demo.flv

Download bar will appear at the top of the page

enjoy

Note: This is in .flv format so you either need a .flv player or a codec installed that will allow WMP to run flv files

You can get a small .flv player here:

http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video ... rs/vlc.cfm

Or here: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-windows.html

(same player)


If you prefer a codec instead of a player, I think the K-lite codec pack will have the needed codec: http://www.majorgeeks.com/download5228.html


BTW... I guess its no secret anymore, ATi R600 will have full blown surround sound directly over a HDCP/HDMI link to the GPU internally.

[DizZa]

How do you think the R600 will compare to the G80?

[Nick N]

How do you think the R600 will compare to the G80?

as far as I am concerned, there is none for quite a few reasons

The least being the G80 does not meet Vista certification and never will. One of the reasons is it is not internally HDCP/HDMI surround sound compliant and the shader development on that card is crap along with a pile of driver issues in Vista Nvidia can't seem to get fixed.


ATi completely leads the way in performance with few issue Vista driver development and will also have a better product for it that will be fully certified for both DX10.x and Vista

That's just my opinion

As for the G81, that's another story. Too soon to tell how that will pan out

If AMD gets the GPU compliant quad memory bus out on the market this summer which only the R600 has the ability to use I would say G81 may have some stiff competition no matter how internally fast it may be. If the ATi GPU can access and directly use a quad memory bus to the processor cores.. its going to be an interesting xmas season for Nvidia

[macca22au]

Nick;  are you telling us that those of us who have bought the 8800 card have wasted our money?

[DizZa]

[quote]Nick;

[Nick N]

[quote]Nick;

[ATI_7500]

A CeBit video?

Strange, I haven't seen anything related to the R600 there...only the current stuff.
Must've been an internal.

[Ashton Lawson]

Look, I know for a fact, ATi's X2900 is going to kick the GeForce 8800 in the pants, and out the window.  There is no comparison.  ATi's monster has more stuff in it, has higher performance, and a cheaper price I think...

The only thing that will compare with the X2900 is the upcoming GeForce 8900s and GeForce 8950s.  But until then nothing compares to a G80, nothing compares to a R600 (and they don't compare to each other).

The only time where we will be able to compare stuff, is when eventually, both players (ATi and nVIDIA) are in the race in DX10 card, without a chance of tripping by accident.

[DizZa]

The next few months are going to be sweet as ATI is launching there complete lineup of video cards at once.  ;)  ;D

[Nick N]

A CeBit video?

Strange, I haven't seen anything related to the R600 there...only the current stuff.
Must've been an internal.

Yes, it was at CeBit in a closed area demo so the video leak had to be internal

It was also leaked to youtube but the quality on that one is very bad.



more:

Scenes in the demo have between two and two and a half million triangles, depending on scene complexity. Ruby is around 200K triangles and it uses 128 morph targets for facial animation and around 200 bones for skinning animation. When it comes to the face of ATI's bride, animation was done by filming a face of the real-world Ruby (actress) with a high-definition camera. After the filming, plain vanilla video was analysed and processed step-by-step, using highly complex facial recognition software in order to extract facial animation data. After this video session, Ruby's face alone got layered with 15 different textures, and placed in a scene generated by procedurally generated snow. Snow simulation is processed entirely on a GPU and can be dynamically melted or amplified to increase the snow cover (and the snow effect while Ruby is doing a snowboard scene in Janica Kostelic style).

When it comes to the fur on Ruby's collar, this is no longer simple vertex-generated fur with predefined movement, but rather a simulated with a physics model, also done on the GPU.

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4712

Also, The EE Times reports Barcelona will kick Intels FPP by 42%


Its going to be an interesting year once the quad shotgun bus motherboards hit the market full swing. A direct connection between the GPU(s) and the quad bus will change gaming forever. Its the next explosion level of consumer grade technology that has not changed very much in the last 5-6 years, the last (small) change was PCIe... and it will be here very soon.

[Ashton Lawson]

Okay.  Personally, the graphics I'd say were okay.  The sound and music were lame.

I must say, that was the lamest thing I've ever seen.  Even the nVIDIA demos were cooler than that.  That was just... stupid.

If that was live-rendered, then I applaud the smoothness, and the clarity and texture quality, but come one, that was nothing compared to things out of Crysis.  That was absolutely pathetic.  I think that ATi could do a lot better than that.

If this whole thing about ATi's Ruby character is one of the marketing things for them, they need to pay a lot more money to the guys who do that, because that was just average to me.

My opinion only though...

[Nick N]

[quote]Okay.

[DizZa]

A couple of things:

That demo uses 680mb of textures and rendered at 1280x720p, how much frame buffer is that? More than a 8800 can handle for sure (yeah yeah yeah i know I'm a fanboy).

When it comes to the fur on Ruby's collar, this is no longer simple vertex-generated fur with predefined movement, but rather a simulated with a physics model, also done on the GPU.

Scenes in the demo have between two and two and a half million triangles, depending on scene complexity.

Ruby is around 200K triangles and it uses 128 morph targets for facial animation and around 200 bones for skinning animation.

Ruby's face alone got layered with 15 different textures.

In my opinion this is 30 times Crysis when you look at the technology at use.

[Ashton Lawson]

[quote][quote]Okay.

[Nick N]

It was not just the cards they used but the processor, memory and motherboard which were also next gen technology. Without the supporting technology a live render would not have been possible. It was a internal demo to show the combined technology ability so story lines were not needed nor was it important.

ATi has been very tight with any DX10 demo of their product. Part of that goes to the DX10 engine and Vista being updated and changed. I would not want to develop or display a demo of hardware to the public until I had my drivers and hardware locked down to the engine code they will be running in order to ensure my product is not laced with release issues or displays better/worse than what my clientele will get in a demo.