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is Intel Desktop Board D975XBX the Best?

Postby yf » Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:26 pm

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Re: is Intel Desktop Board D975XBX the Best?

Postby GeForce » Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:25 pm

The Badaxe is an OK board. However the Gigabyte DS4 or DQ6 are much better choices as the 4mb Conroes run better on the 965 chipset.

Don't get the X6800 Conroe. Complete waste of money. Save a bit and go for the E6600/6700. Same amount of cache and will overclock past the X6800 at stock.

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Re: is Intel Desktop Board D975XBX the Best?

Postby cheesegrater » Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:02 pm

I would say it depends on the motherboard too, not just the chipset. Abit AW9D MAX board has the 975 chipset and is a great overclocker.
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Re: is Intel Desktop Board D975XBX the Best?

Postby yf » Sat Oct 28, 2006 10:02 pm

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Re: is Intel Desktop Board D975XBX the Best?

Postby congo » Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:03 am

The chipset is basically the feature set and full capability of a mainboard. Whatever chipset a motherboard is fitted with determines what that PC's potential is.

Build your own, or buy the parts and have it assembled, you don't need a shop to do it, just an enthusiast who knows what they are doing.

The Badaxe isn't a great choice. It was the first Conroe board, many models offer improvements.

You don't need to spend on an Extreme cpu, an E6600 is more than you will need until Quad core architecture is released and supported.

A dual GPU card like the 7900 GX2 might be worth researching for FSX. The video performance will be the limiting factor, not the CPU, mainboard or memory in a high end system.
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Re: is Intel Desktop Board D975XBX the Best?

Postby Viper22 » Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:53 am

I have the Gigabyte DQ6 board, go for that if you really want great overclocking and reliability.  The problem is is that you pay over $200 for it and you don't get SLi support, so that is a down point to it.... :(
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Re: is Intel Desktop Board D975XBX the Best?

Postby cheesegrater » Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:05 pm

A dual GPU card like the 7900 GX2 might be worth researching for FSX. The video performance will be the limiting factor, not the CPU, mainboard or memory in a high end system.


I think the 7950GX2 is the most over-rated card out there. ATI Radeon X1950XTX is fastest right now (in most benchmarks). Also it supports AA+HDR while nVIDIA cards don't.
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Re: is Intel Desktop Board D975XBX the Best?

Postby yf » Sun Oct 29, 2006 5:07 pm

Thanks.

as far as the Gigabyte DQ6 board, Intel just came out with the new D975XBX2 and the specs is as good as the DQ6,

but my main concern is, were can i get step by step info. how to overclock the 6700? or at least a srore that dos it for money?

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Re: is Intel Desktop Board D975XBX the Best?

Postby congo » Sun Oct 29, 2006 7:13 pm

The 6600 and 6700 are identical except for the cpu multiplier. The whole point of overclocking is to get a faster cpu for less money, not pay more for the same cpu already overclocked!

The BadAxe was notoriously difficult to overclock and configure. (at least in it's original form). I hope you know what you are doing. Intel mainboards are built for stability at design specifications. They are not traditionally an enthusiast mainboard.

The overclocking functions are laid out in the manual's bios section and I doubt you will find an easy step by step guide for overclocking that board. A study of the chipset and associated architecture will help you understand what you are doing.

Basically, overclocking a conroe is similar to overclocking any other system, you raise the front side bus speed and try to keep the memory within operating frequency. You keep raising the speed until failure, then make voltage modifications to squeeze even more speed out of the rig, until no further gains are able to be safely made, due to heat/voltage/technology limits. Once the limit is established, a useful and stable setting may be chosen based on your requirements.

The o/c procedure is complex and time consuming and one cannot make hard and fast rules for it due to differences in individual hardware such as cpu's and mainboard chips, they are not all created equally even though they are "identical" products.

Typically I will spend a few hours with a person teaching them the basics of overclocking so that they may continue to learn on their own. Most people are somewhat surprised to learn just how complex this overclocking thing is, and the reason for this is that it requires a good knowledge of the architecture and testing methods used to do it properly.

Asus has just implemented a shortcut approach to overclocking whereby users may swap their bios files with each other, so an overclocker on the same mainboard can post his bios on the web and you can download and use his preset bios settings to overclock your system with! I suggest that a certain amount of "faith" would be needed to use unknown bios files, but this is a really nice feature between trusted users.
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Re: is Intel Desktop Board D975XBX the Best?

Postby yf » Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:12 pm

Thanks for you time! you are very helpfull! thanks.

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