Please Help!!

[NicksFXHouse]

I too was thinking the same...I wanted to know as a safety precaution, can I remove my side panel for heat removal? Will it create static? I don't want to mess up my computer...also, shall I post my temperatures from what Everest gives? I can take a screen shot...

Thanks for the help guys!

Your not going to be sticking your fingers in the tower... it just needs to be opened to verify the heat issues.

As for cleaning, that may be necessary if you have never done it in the past. At that point you will need tobe careful and make sure the tower is completely unplugged... also, hit the power switch a few times after unplugging it to de-energize the power supply.

If you live in a high static environment, such as carpet and dry air, use a static clip however with the motherboard grounded to the tower I am sure it will be fine.. just take care while cleaning. A good can of compressed air from a local office or electronics supply works good for flushing out the heatsinks and grills.

[congo]

Opening the side panel shouldn't hurt, I haven't had side panels on my last 3 PC's, I'm always ripping stuff out and putting stuff in so it would be a hassle for me to use sidecovers, not to mention boxing up the heat and dust like that, I'd be overheating for 9 months of the year if I used sidecovers, as it is, I need a large desk fan blowing over my PC and myself to keep us cool.

[NicksFXHouse]

you made me wet my pants

[Hai Perso Coyone?]

That drawing is funny...

I'll try it with the open side panel first...my fan's are down in the basement...I think I'll try without the fan first

[Gunny04]

you need good fans, sidecovers, and good airflow to create PRESSURE.... Pressure is everything, if you overheat a computer like that congo, I assume your pressure isnt good in the case.... I had worse results when taking the side panels off.... I Thought it would help, but it doesnt, you see air loves the Shortest path of resistence, and if you box up the computer (Close the case up) and prevent holes, and only have the fan exuast/Entrance for air, it goes where YOU ultimately want it (Provided you have decent fans) and that is outside of the case, you want outside air to come in, and hot air to go out, This is the key to cooling a PC at its best with air. The outside air temperature should have very little to do with your components heat if you can move the air smoothly, and Efficiently. I could be wrong, but this seems to be what I've made out of fans and cases.....

Cheers, Gunny

[Mees]

The only way to get rid of this is to press and hold the power button for 5 seconds

That's the problem, it's 6 seconds

[congo]

The outside air temperature should have very little to do with your components heat if you can move the air smoothly, and Efficiently. I could be wrong, but this seems to be what .....

Yes, you are wrong, the outside air temp, (ambient temp) has everything to do with cooling.

If the ambient temp is 42*C and your cooling can only maintain 20*C above ambient, then we have an overheat problem.

Pressure has nothing to do with cooling, you mistake pressure for volume of air in your explanation, high volumes of air moving through a PC will cool better because the heat is dissipated and carried away more effectively by the cool breeze you create. Stand behind a sand dune on a sunny beach and you will sweat and bake in the sun, move up to the ridge of the dune and you get the cool seabreeze flowing over you, cooling your skin and evaporating your sweat.

PC's don't sweat, but they have a large surface area of metal to transpire heat to the air through. The entire PC is, in effect, a giant heatsink, and much heat is dissipated through every surface on and in the PC.

If the air is static or slow moving across the PC's internals, the heat is not carried away effectively and the

[Gunny04]

I must have been extremely wrong then, Hmm I will expierement with the desk fan idea again and see if thats true, thanks for the Idea congo!

Cheers, Gunny

[congo]

You may be right Gunny, I've heard reports from people who say case closed works better on their rigs, though I cannot, as a student of physics, figure out why that

[Gunny04]

holy toledo! Thats insane... but if it works in certain areas I imagine its gotta help (Very very hot places!?) I hope it never gets hot enough to need that around here.... The hotest day any of my computers have seen was about 98-105F and that was terrible on my already shot thermal paste and crappy heatsink  ;D

Cheers, Gunny, glad to live in Michigan, where we dont get severe heat waves!

[NicksFXHouse]

Positive pressure systems only work in climate controlled environments. They require the tower be engineered specifically for positive pressure (meaning all the fans blow into the tower except the PSU)

Otherwise, its about airflow and getting the heat out of the tower.

Congo is absolutely correct... if the ambient is very high, no matter what you do the components will be high and therefore the heat must be removed using airflow or fluid dynamics.

The best systems have at least an 80mm fan on the tower door blowing toward the CPU and the rear fan is at least 120mm blowing out. The Scythe line of fans use the Sony fluid dynamic bearings and make very little noise.

If the heat sinks and vents get plugged with debris, the airflow is reduced and therefore the tower overheats. All of my towers are in climate/debris controlled environments and therefore dust and ambient temps are never a problem.

That tower Congo posted is quite interesting... I had a design like than in the late 90's I put together for playing with clocks... its is an inexpensive way to cool a high clock system compared to fluid however it does with a noise price.

I hate noise

none of my towers exceed 28db even fully clocked

When they are not being used for high performance they sit around 18-20dB. Speedfan controls the system.


In your situation Congo you would be better off with a liquid system. At least your radiator could be remote. I even saw one rig that used a huge bucket of water being recirculated through a mini fridge unit.

I cant imagine having to listen to a tower/fan wirrrrrrrrrrrr... it would drive me nuts.

[Gunny04]

lol drive you nuts Nick? Do you have your PCs in your bedroom like I do it makes sleeping hard sometimes with a loud fan! I think my CPU Fan is like 40-50 dba....

[congo]

I cant imagine having to listen to a tower/fan wirrrrrrrrrrrr... it would drive me nuts.

My desk fan is a monster, retro 1979 model, with a powerful, energy ineffecient, large diameter fan that I run on Low speed. It pumps a lot of air and is pretty quiet.

My air conditioner, on the other hand, is a completely bestial apparatus with a db rating that rivals a DH Dash 8 at idle.  :-/

Between the two of them, I can usually maintain 90*F or under on the hot days in this small room, and it's getting hotter every year.  :P

[Gunny04]

thats one heck of an AC congo.... I need one for realism! I think not!  ;D

Gunny

[cheesegrater]

Cheers, Gunny, glad to live in Michigan, where we dont get severe heat waves!

Hahaha! You wouldn't happen to live anywhere by the great lakes would you? Because the heat + humidity makes it worse than a desert.