Too hot,or not?

[Arnimon]

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[ctjoyce]

65*C load on a Athalon is a bit high. I would suggest getting a Zalman CNPS-7000Cu or a Zalman CNPS-9500Cu along with some artic silver 5 thermal paste.

I would also suggest a new video card, but thats another matter.

Cheers
Cameron

[cheesegrater]

I have already built in a new CPU Cooler and an Exhaust Fan.

You replaced the stock 3800 X2 heatsink and fan? What did you replace it with and what kind of thermal grease did you apply?

If you have in fact replaced the stock heatsink assembly the only thing that could be causing this high temperature is improper application of the thermal grease or a faulty or insufficient fan and heatsink or bad quality grease.

[Arnimon]

I would also suggest a new video card, but thats another matter.

Ok,but it

[Arnimon]

You replaced the stock 3800 X2 heatsink and fan? What did you replace it with and what kind of thermal grease did you apply?

The stock heatsink and Fan was replaced by a Thermaltaltake "Blue Orb II". I used the thermal grease that came along with the Blue Orb.
In the beginning i wanted to get a new cooler because the stock one was far too loud.Then i found out that the CPU temperature was way too high. It became better after the installation of the new fan,before that it was even higher! It reached about 74

[congo]

Try leaving your case open for 10 or 15 minutes and then re-check the temps.

If the temps are a lot lower, then you have a case ventilation problem. If someone set the CPU core voltage higher than stock Vcore volts, then it would run hotter than normal.

A cheap video card?

6600GT
6800GS
7600GS
7600GT

Don't go under the 6600GT, better to save your money.

[Arnimon]

Try leaving your case open for 10 or 15 minutes and then re-check the temps.

Thats what i already did. And jap,the temps lowered a little bit. So,as solution,a case exhaust fan was built in.
The temps which i posted above are now with case exhaust fan and closed case.

If someone set the CPU core voltage higher than stock Vcore volts, then it would run hotter than normal.

Look at the data above,the core voltage is at 0,91V.
It should reach 1,3V or not? But it doesn

[cheesegrater]

The Blue Orb II should be sufficient.

I would replace the thermal paste with Arctic Silver 5.

6600GT is cheap. I got one for under $100 US recently. 7600GT is $170 US. The 7600GS is in between.

[Arnimon]

The Blue Orb II should be sufficient.

Uuhh,my english vocabular isn

[cheesegrater]

Yes, Blue Orb II should be OK.

For currency conversion see this web site:

http://www.xe.com/ucc/

100.00 USD is 78.1621 EUR

[congo]

The cards are all nVidia, I've only been able to recommend ATI cards on one or two occasions in my computing history because of price/performance ratios in the performance brackets I was advising on.

I think ATI are fine, and in many cases the seem better than nVidia ones, but bang for buck is usually in favour of nVidia cards.

What is the FM-Bulk mainboard, I didn't know it existed? I'm familiar with the standard A8N-E.

I suspect I know at least partially what's wrong with your system, the .9 volts vcore tipped me off.

Cool & Quiet is enabled and is giving you random Vcore readings and fan speeds (?) and bus speeds .

QFAN in your bios will affect Temps and fan speeds if enabled. There is a temperature threshold setting for QFAN and this should be set to the lower limit of 51*.

You need to turn off Cool & Quiet and QFAN to be able to do diagnostics accurately because those utilities just keep adjusting your system parameters automatically.

Right now, you CPU fan is set in BIOS under QFAN to kick in at 65* or whatever, so the idle temp rises because the fan is only idling.

It would still appear that you have a cooling issue , simply removing and replacing the HSF assembly can cause this by disturbing the original joint compound, if indeed the compound wasn't already rendered inefficient during the original installation.

I would try to gently rotate (slightly) back and forth the HSF assembly on top of the CPU while in normal operating mode at high CPU temps. This may bed the compound in for a good contact if there is any irregularity in the surface contact. If that doesn't work, use new compound.

A third party heatsink is not a solution, it's a cover up for another problem. If the CPU overheats at stock speed and normal operating loads, then something is WRONG.

You may void your warranty by applying Arctic Silver, so you better check out that possibility before leaping in, you might be better off making a warranty claim.

[cheesegrater]

He already void the warranty by using an aftermarket fan.

If you use anything else but the stock fan and the thermal comound that comes pre-applied on the stock fan you void your warranty.

[congo]

So I wonder, did you try putting the stock HSF back on to cure the problem, I mean, it was designed to keep that CPU cool.  

[cheesegrater]

Well, the X2 3800 has a pretty basic heatsink compared to other AMD X2. For example the 4400 has a heatsink with copper heatpipes. However, if you don't overclock, and have good airflow it should be fine. However, some people just can't stand their CPU running at 45 degrees.

[Arnimon]

What is the FM-Bulk mainboard, I didn't know it existed? I'm familiar with the standard A8N-E.

I suspect I know at least partially what's wrong with your system, the .9 volts vcore tipped me off.

Cool & Quiet is enabled and is giving you random Vcore readings and fan speeds (?) and bus speeds .

QFAN in your bios will affect Temps and fan speeds if enabled. There is a temperature threshold setting for QFAN and this should be set to the lower limit of 51*.

You need to turn off Cool & Quiet and QFAN to be able to do diagnostics accurately because those utilities just keep adjusting your system parameters automatically.

Right now, you CPU fan is set in BIOS under QFAN to kick in at 65* or whatever, so the idle temp rises because the fan is only idling.

A third party heatsink is not a solution, it's a cover up for another problem. If the CPU overheats at stock speed and normal operating loads, then something is WRONG.

C&Q is already disabled,i supected it too to be responsable for the low Core voltage. But,i can