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Re: Scrap

Postby Jimbo » Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:50 am

Hello!

"me again"

Reason i was "Re-Questioning" about the 7900GTX 512MB was because Nick Suggested i get it for the "full horse power", but some i have said that the 7900GTX 512MB wont be used to the full potential at the moment.
I have no problems with buying the 7900GTX, i can afford it, im just wondering whether it would be worth getting it at this time, and are games in the near future likely to use the 7900GTX to the full potential.

I think either a 7900GT or 7900GTX with a AMD 64 4000+ would be a great system, but im just trying to get the (as Nick Said) "Best horsepower" i can at the moment.

Cheers all, and you can have your thread back now caveman  :D

Cheers

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Re: Scrap

Postby NicksFXHouse » Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:56 am

[quote]Hello!

"me again"

Reason i was "Re-Questioning" about the 7900GTX 512MB was because Nick Suggested i get it for the "full horse power", but some i have said that the 7900GTX 512MB wont be used to the full potential at the moment.
I have no problems with buying the 7900GTX, i can afford it, im just wondering whether it would be worth getting it at this time, and are games in the near future likely to use the 7900GTX to the full potential.

I think either a 7900GT or 7900GTX with a AMD 64 4000+ would be a great system, but im just trying to get the (as Nick Said) "Best horsepower" i can at the moment.

Cheers all, and you can have your thread back now caveman
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Re: Scrap

Postby Jimbo » Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:25 am

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In every game under different testing methods we saw that 512MB does make a difference, and in some cases a large one. Quake 4
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Re: Scrap

Postby NicksFXHouse » Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:34 am

Eh I know of a kid who has, but XEONs are very unstable for overclocking, and not the greatest for gameing. However getting two Conroes wouldn't be too bad

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Overclocking is overrated and is not necessary if the right hardware is installed. Even if hardware is a bit older overclocking is still not needed for better FS9 performace and I would never overclock for video editing or other high load needs.

Overclocking is fun to do as a hobby and it can provide boosts in performance IF and only IF porperly done, however the downfall to overclocking which is left out of most sites is heat... and I do not care if a system monitor says the CPU or GPU is well within tolerance... a combination of surpassing the design rating + heat causes a reduction in smooth and error free performance which synthetic benchmarks do not register or will ever show. They actually show the opposite.

Allot of FS9 users who have gotten smart and used the FS-GS service learned that the hard way.


You do not need to overclock to get better FS9 or game performance. You need to understand how to set up the OS correctly and optimize the game. 99% of the FS9 tricks and WinXP setup hacks on the internet are total bunk. They rob one part of the game to give to another creating a 'placebo' performance boost instead of providing a balance which delivers everything the game will render at 100% efficiency and clarity.


Assuming you have an x800 video card .... You should be able to fly 6XAA - 16XAF with all scenery sliders maxed and shadows enabled on 1280x1024 or higher resolution and still maintain an average of 32-36 smooth as silk FPS. Even when frames drop to 15-18 they should be smooth and without studders, meaning 15-18 frames will look like 30 to the eye. If you are not getting what I posted above in performance your system/OS and the game is not set up properly or you have scenery/texture issues brough on by a developer who does not understand how to properly design an aircraft or scenery for FS9. Most do not.

I personally run locked @ 25FPS right now simply because the plane I normally fly and some of the scenery I use needs texture corrections which I am in the process of doing myself as I have time. Once I fix that it will be back to the mid 30's for the frame lock.

Overclocking past a certain point actually takes away from smooth frame transitions under high load conditions simply because you are overdriving the electronics past their ability to maintain smooth operation under a high load.


I overclock as a hobby but do not rely on it for the primary performance factor in a game or other applications.



PS:

I have a dual XON system which while my wife is using it for CAD or other design projects, it is also the main server for the entire house and acts as the main backup for 2 other sub systems, including the one I am on right now. It also connects 4 switched terminals with displays throughout the house to the internet, monitors the house security and lighting, runs the external lights and sprinkler system and all the while also supplies 7+1 audio and video feed to 2 rooms, one of which is a 100
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Re: Scrap

Postby MWISimmer » Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:19 pm

[quote]PS:

I have a dual XON system which while my wife is using it for CAD or other design projects, it is also the main server for the entire house and acts as the main backup for 2 other sub systems, including the one I am on right now. It also connects 4 switched terminals with displays throughout the house to the internet, monitors the house security and lighting, runs the external lights and sprinkler system and all the while also supplies 7+1 audio and video feed to 2 rooms, one of which is a 100
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Re: Scrap

Postby caveman16 » Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:26 pm

    Hey Guys,     I keep reading this matirial you Guys have posted.       Much of this is over my head  [for now ]   as I've never gotten into this  "TYPE" of thing before.        Some time back I mentioned that  "STUDY" was a hobby of mine.    I  LOVE  this study and I feel I've got the best teachers anywhere. I'm sure you will bear with me on this project of me making a NEW PC just for FSX  and   [perhaps]  Vista.

     After I print all this out, - - - I then do my homework which may take several days.    

     I wish to thank you all for your input  in helping me.     Always  so appreciative   - - -  caveman
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Re: Scrap

Postby NicksFXHouse » Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:44 pm

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Re: Scrap

Postby NicksFXHouse » Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:49 pm

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*faint*
I want one.
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Re: Scrap

Postby Jimbo » Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:37 am

I have contacted Michael Previously about the FS-GS services, and he was the one that reccomended me upgrade my computer.

After i get my new system, im going to use the FS-GS services to get the most out of my system.
I believe that Michaels work is brilliant.

Thanks all.

James 8)
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