Hey ho - back to Old Faithful..........AGAIN

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Re: Hey ho - back to Old Faithful..........AGAIN

Postby RollerBall » Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:39 am

Oh well...

Decided in the end to go for the 6600GT. I'll be happy if I get the same sort of performance as congo. I'll let you know when I get the replacement in a few days time.
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Re: Hey ho - back to Old Faithful..........AGAIN

Postby Fozzer » Mon Aug 15, 2005 7:03 am

Afternoon Roger....!
I got my BFG 6600 GT OC 128Mb (
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Re: Hey ho - back to Old Faithful..........AGAIN

Postby RollerBall » Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:33 am

Paul, got a feeling your numbers are from 3DMark2003. My 9700Pro gave over 11000 in 2001 and your 6600GT must be higher than that.
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Re: Hey ho - back to Old Faithful..........AGAIN

Postby Fozzer » Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:55 am

Paul, got a feeling your numbers are from 3DMark2003. My 9700Pro gave over 11000 in 2001 and your 6600GT must be higher than that.



Hi Roger...!
...just checked my program....
(A free-bee program from an old computer disk)...

Mad Onion 3d Mark 2001 SE.... ;D...!

Ran it last night on the BFG 6600....Benchmark=7270 3D marks....1024X768 No AA...;)...!

Cheers...!

Paul.

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Re: Hey ho - back to Old Faithful..........AGAIN

Postby congo » Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:51 am

...... and look what my old 5900XT was scoring on my last rig (nforce2) ..... maybe you are not set up right somehow. Your chipset was pretty good I thought.
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Re: Hey ho - back to Old Faithful..........AGAIN

Postby RollerBall » Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:20 pm

???

Yeah seems pretty low. Anyhow wait till I get my replacement because I'm also running an AMD 2600+ but with NForce 2 chipset (which apparently has now been rated as not so hot).

I reckon the problem may be in the size of your wiener which may be restricting overall performance - choking they call it  ::)
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Re: Hey ho - back to Old Faithful..........AGAIN

Postby Fozzer » Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:58 pm

???

Yeah seems pretty low. Anyhow wait till I get my replacement because I'm also running an AMD 2600+ but with NForce 2 chipset (which apparently has now been rated as not so hot).

I reckon the problem may be in the size of your wiener which may be restricting overall performance - choking they call it  ::)


LOL...!
...my wiener is doing very nicely, thank-you Roger...;)...;D...!

Here you go then.....just run it again...all background programs shut down...
"What can't speak can't lie"....as an old Mercian saying goes... ;D...!

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1024X768, 32 Bit colour, No AA, D3D Pure Hardware T&L, compressed textures, simmered slowly over a low heat....
LOL...!

The results are always very similar... ::)...!

Cheers...!

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Re: Hey ho - back to Old Faithful..........AGAIN

Postby congo » Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:43 am

That score is too low to
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Re: Hey ho - back to Old Faithful..........AGAIN

Postby Fozzer » Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:13 pm

Now here's a turn-up for the books.... :o...!
I thought I would boot-up my 2nd hard drive which contains Windows '98SE and 3D Mark 2001 SE....
So...
Using the same settings as my Win XP Pro (SP1), I ran the program again...
...and what 'appens... ;)... ;D...>>>

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...what do you make of that then...?
Ran as sweet as a nut...!
So much for Win XP...(never did like it... :'(...)...!

Cheers all happy Win '98SE users... ;D... ;D... ;D...!

Paul.

By the way...I reinstalled my VIA 4in1 chipset drivers for the motherboard in Win XP (again!), but I do get the report...
"For USB 2.0 driver support under Windows XP operating system please use Windows Service Pack"
I dont have Service Pack 2...TOO BIG to download on 56k, (for the original OEM disk installation).
Is SP2  really necessary...?
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Re: Hey ho - back to Old Faithful..........AGAIN

Postby the_autopilot » Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:49 pm

I highly recommend SP2. Its really ehlps with compatbility issus as well as security issues.

BTW, if you want to try forcing speeds and see if it works.

Use the coolbits hack and then force the 2d and 3d settings to be the same.

Stock for 6600 gt is 500 mhz core and 1 ghz (1000 mhz) memory.

See if tha works.

I have never had any problems with the 6600 gt. BTW, use a newer benchmark than 01. 01 is barely a dx8 benchmark. Your card is a dx9c with pixel shader 3. Use a more appropriate benchmark.

A typical stock 6600 gt shoul score around 3200 in 3dmark05.
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Re: Hey ho - back to Old Faithful..........AGAIN

Postby Skligmund » Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:38 pm

I've gone through 4 different cards with 3dMark2001 se, and found that CPU speed does more that GPUs. I still use my FX5700Ultra (not non-ultra) in my backup computer, and I'm ver happy with it. I never heard of driver problems with it, nor have I ever had DX9 problems with it.

I went from a Ti4600, to a 5700U, to my 6800GT in the same motherboard/processor/ram, and had only a 4500 point difference in 3dMark01 (11,100 to 15,600).  Last time I marked (with current setup), I got 25,325. Maybe I should do it again sometime....

With 3dMark03, I doubled my score switching to the 6800GT from the 5700U.

Never BM'd 05 with the 5700U. Got like 5200 points with 6800GT, but that setup was bad I think... Long time ago.
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Re: Hey ho - back to Old Faithful..........AGAIN

Postby Skligmund » Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:43 pm

Oh, and service pack 1 is the one with the USB2 addition....
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Re: Hey ho - back to Old Faithful..........AGAIN

Postby Fozzer » Wed Aug 17, 2005 3:15 am

Oh, and service pack 1 is the one with the USB2 addition....


Hi lads...!
Just to clear up a bit of confusion..(Confusion is my middle name.. :'(...)...!

I have the early, single, original OEM CD for the installation of my Windows XP Pro.
Would this CD also contain "Service Pack 1", or was SP1 an extra add-on...?

Downloading SP2 is a no-no...
1) Takes too long on 56k Dial-up, 2-hour cut-off.
2) There are "conflicts" with the registration details between the original OEM disk and the download program(s) from MicroSoft..... :'(......dont ask.... ;)...!

If SP1 is a seperate program, is it vital to have it installed...?
The same thing goes for SP2...?

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Re: Hey ho - back to Old Faithful..........AGAIN

Postby the_autopilot » Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:54 pm

Unfortuately, SP1 is no longer available for download.

You have to get SP1 with SP2.

BTW, not sure if they are still doing this, but MS was shipping totally free (including shipping) SP2 CD's to anybody who ordered them.

Yep, they are still doing it.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/updates/sp2/cdorder/en_us/default.mspx

And yes, I am absolutely believe that an install of SP2 is vital in the sense that if you don't install it, you won't get the security updates.
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Re: Hey ho - back to Old Faithful..........AGAIN

Postby RollerBall » Wed Aug 24, 2005 6:15 am

:D

Wahaaay!

Just got my new 6600GT which I'll be installing later. And guess what, the nice people where I got my faulty 9800Pro from did a DIRECT replacement.

What it is to be a trade customer... ;)
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