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Re: Local Area Connection Info

Postby congo » Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:49 am

No, If I was a genius, I'd invent a plug and play networking system   ;D
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Re: Local Area Connection Info

Postby luke » Tue Aug 02, 2005 5:54 pm

Well,Well,Well,
Thnx to the help of all you contriputors that encouraged me in my two threads, I managed to PARTLY network XP with 98.

Mostly I followed every single word from this info:-
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winxp/1055785144

I can see the 98 win Explorer from the XP one, and can transfer files, print via XP's printer, BUT NOT vise versa,
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Re: Local Area Connection Info

Postby luke » Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:16 pm

Actually just managed, by flook and trial & error, to see in 98 PC the XP one's C:\ partition, but not the other four.

I found "Network Neighbourhood" by going to Start / Find / computer and when "Family" appeared I doubleclicked it and presto winExplorer showed the XP C partition.

Most strange, no wonder people said was difficult.

Any way now I only need help to :
1. see the other partitions of XP PC (from 98 one)
2. how to use the broadband connection of XP from 98.

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Re: Local Area Connection Info

Postby Jared » Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:05 pm

ok to see more folders on either pc you need to set up "sharing" rules on the pc's.

I can't remember in 98 but I know that XP if you right click a folder you can then set the sharing properties of it. For example you could just tell it to share the whole drive/partition you need access to for a bit... ;)

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Re: Local Area Connection Info

Postby congo » Wed Aug 03, 2005 4:08 am

Right click the drives and set sharing in the properties.

I not sure of the security impact if you then connect to the net. It depends on whether or not the internet zone sees the shared drives as well, be careful.

If you have any unusual slowness to the connection between the two PC's then it's still faulty. If it's reasonably fast, then you have so far succeeded.

Internet Explorer functionality and web access from the Win '98 machine are now what you have to sort out, and this is usually where firewall issues become a real pain.

Remember to switch the firewall off if something doesn't seem right, to make sure the FW isn't blocking the connection.

Firewalls can be hardware, ISP, third party software and Windows Firewall, so just because you think you switched the windows firewall off, don't be too sure.

You'll probably need to understand whatever firewall/s you are using and how to set ICS up thru that firewall. It can get a little tricky for the mere mortals like us.

From what I could glean, the firewall needs to be on the XP machine only, but I'm not sure about that, best to get some good security advice from someone who absolutely knows.

The XP firewall needs to give the '98 machine access to the web, so the XP firewall needs be configured to allow ICS.

The free Zonealarm firewall doesn't allow this, and the Pro version is required to support ICS.

Windows firewall runs constantly as a background service despite turning it off. When I disable windows firewall, I also disable the firewall service.
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Re: Local Area Connection Info

Postby luke » Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:43 am

Thnx Congo,
just managed to see all the partitions with your sharing trick, but I am sure I tried this earlier from another suggestion without success.

I am really geting confused.

The networking and sharing is almost instant, concidery the 98's CPU is only 500mhz, with 192 mb ram.

BUT the ICS part is dodgy.

At the moment I have the broadband cable on the 98 and connected. Only once I managed to share this connection on the XP, it was fast and saw your post on it.

I'm hazy of how I did it, but I think, on XP, I doubleclicked the the Brdband icon of the 98 desctop.

Somehow I lost this connection ,and since the I could not share it again, no matter what I do.

The Firewall is on XP & is the MS one, where did it appear from do not know, may be via Tiscali ?.

I went in it and added various things to allow them, but I'm in the dark.

Where is the service of MS one?

I am now going to move the Brdband cable back to the XP and try again ICS from that end, flook may come back to me!
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Re: Local Area Connection Info

Postby congo » Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:49 pm

Now your getting me confused lol!

You need to hook the broadband up to the XP machine, that's imperitive as far as I know if you want use ICS. The older Op sys must connect THRU the XP one. If you had it that way when you set the network up, then it may still work, but if you changed it and reconfigured the network, it might be easier to start again.............

Are we having fun yet?

This is why autopilot was so adamant about getting a switch, ICS is so daunting a prospect that a cash/upgrade solution makes a lot of sense.

I myself need a home network at the moment, but it really gives me the @!$#% trying to set it up!

I was kinda hoping you'd stumble across an easy way so I could copy it....
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Re: Local Area Connection Info

Postby luke » Wed Aug 03, 2005 4:30 pm

Yes, Brodband returns to XP, I moved it to 98 just to change the routine a bit. (after all do'nt forget, actual ICS occured briefly there !).

Understand fully implications of "start again", I had too.

Sorry to dash your hopes.

TCP/IP is readyily at hand on desktop, it is the main key.

Tried various configs in there. Will study info URL now.

My XP is SP2, do'nt know how different from just XP?

see this short quodation form URL I gave in earlier post
He excused his NIL English, but his info helped me:- "...............>Asume:
>Win xp as a gateway with a broadband connection and a win98 client.
>First the Lan for filesharing and print.
>That is just 1 minute to set up.
>Set:
>In tcp/ip
>Xp lan card: ip:192.168.0.1
>subnetmask goes automatic if you click 255.255.255.0
>Netbios: check with tcp/ip
>Left all the other settings to deafault or blank.
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Re: Local Area Connection Info

Postby the_autopilot » Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:47 am

No, If I was a genius, I'd invent a plug and play networking system   ;D



Networking is pretty much plug and play on modern equiment.

You should have been around when spanning tree and poison reverse (or split horizon) did not exist.
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Re: Local Area Connection Info

Postby luke » Thu Aug 04, 2005 4:18 pm

Well Congo,

Finally managed to dial up in 98 via the XP Broadband.

To start from scratch, I went 98 PC Ctrl Pnl, double click Network,
clicked and removed each component showing.

PC reboots, finds Ethernet card, ask for Floppy with drivers.

PC reboots.

To Network now with XP PC:-

Win98 PC:-
Find, Computers, type in the XP Computer Name (mine
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Re: Local Area Connection Info

Postby congo » Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:11 pm

good to see some success  ;D
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